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It's weird though whwat some people come up with. Back in high 
school, i had a teacher tell us about a shrine she wanted to visit 
that supposedly had a bone from Jesus's pinky finger.

I wasn't a believer at the time but didn't go for holy bones either.

Cheers,

Doris




At 02:43 PM 3/15/2007 -0400, you wrote:

>If one believes the biblical account of Jesus' empty tomb, his 
>ascension to the right Hand of the Father, one would surely know 
>that Jesus took his bones with him when He left!
>
>Helen
>
>
>Earlier John Schwery wrote:
>
>> From an Archaeological and Jewish viewpoint, David Dolan nails this one.
>>
>>Text of forwarded message follows:
>>
>>
>>>Shalom from Jerusalem,
>>>
>>>Local residents and visiting tourists (of which there are many at 
>>>present) are eagerly waiting to see if snow descends on the 
>>>capital city in the coming hours, with forecasters warning of that 
>>>possibility as temperatures dip to freezing overnight.  Meanwhile, 
>>>I am sending you a copy of my latest commentary for the World Net 
>>>Daily web site.  It concerns the recent claim that the ancient 
>>>family tomb of Jesus of Nazareth has been discovered in my old 
>>>Jerusalem neighborhood, East Talpiot.  In fact, I note that I 
>>>lived virtually next door to the supposed site for some 15 years 
>>>before moving to central Jerusalem in 2001.  The commentary 
>>>features some news released just today concerning the controversy, 
>>>emanating from a local Christian scholar who is a longtime 
>>>acquaintance of mine.  Read and enjoy!
>>>
>>>I recently learned that a US media interview I did via satellite 
>>>from my apartment roof for the Harvest TV program, broadcast near 
>>>the end of last summer's Lebanon war, had been posted on the 
>>>popular YouTube web site. It was sparked by the discovery last 
>>>year of an ancient book of Psalms in an Irish bog, found open to 
>>>Psalm 83. I note that I've written a chapter on that prophetic 
>>>psalm in my 2001 book ISRAEL IN CRISIS: WHAT LIES AHEAD?  If you 
>>>would like to look at the posted video, which is still quite 
>>>timely, click on this link: 
>>><http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ-vmsXgmVA>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ-vmsXgmVA 
>>>Just ignore the long summertime shadows around my eyes!  The book 
>>>itself is available from my web site, <http://www.ddolan.com/>www.ddolan.com
>>>
>>>Speaking of Ireland (and that's also timely since this Saturday is 
>>>St. Patrick's Day), it appears that a recent intervention by some 
>>>prominent Irish Christian and Jewish friends has prompted a 
>>>solution to my journalist visa and Israeli press card situation, 
>>>which I mentioned for prayer last July.  I will not go into the 
>>>details here, but I do want to thank those directly involved in 
>>>this welcome intervention, and also to all of you around the world 
>>>who prayed for a positive outcome.
>>>
>>>With the prospects of another war with Hizbullah forces in Lebanon 
>>>again looming large before us this year, if not also with their 
>>>Syrian and Iranian masters, Israel's top governmental leaders, 
>>>including Prime Minister Olmert and Defense Minister Peretz, have 
>>>just been warned that they will be named in an official commission 
>>>investigation into last summer's war, apparently in a negative 
>>>manner.  The report is scheduled to be released next 
>>>month.  Analysts say this could lead to the collapse of the Olmert 
>>>government. I will report on that and other important developments 
>>>in Israel in this month's Israel News update, to be sent out to 
>>>you in less than two weeks time.
>>>
>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>JESUS: DEAD OR ALIVE?
>>>By David Dolan
>>>
>>>Media circuses are hardly rare occurrences here in Jerusalem.
>>>
>>>In fact, as I write this column, workers with CNN International 
>>>are setting up a big blue tent (I kid you not) just across the street
>>>>from my apartment building, preparing to
>>>broadcast a report by correspondent Ben Weideman from underneath 
>>>the protective canopy on a stormy March afternoon.
>>>
>>>I should mention that the view from my central Jerusalem street is 
>>>usually worth filming whatever the weather, especially facing 
>>>north toward Mount Zion and the biblical Temple Mount.
>>>
>>>That was not the case with my former home in the East Talpiot 
>>>neighborhood.  While the view
>>>>from my top floor flat was not all that bad, it
>>>was hardly noteworthy.  I mainly looked out at dozens of other 
>>>tall apartment buildings that dominate the southeast Jerusalem suburb.
>>>
>>>But something allegedly quite historic was lurking in the shadows 
>>>of the stone-faced apartment building located just next to mine: 
>>>The burial tomb of Jesus, his wife Mary Magdalene and their son 
>>>Judah, not to mention his Jewish mother and other family members!
>>>
>>>Ben Weideman was among hundreds of Israeli and international 
>>>journalists that recently filmed stirring reports near an 
>>>innocuous cement slab located in East Talpiot.  The unpretentious 
>>>slab lies in the corner of a small fenced in rose patch planted 
>>>along a narrow foot path just below the apartment building that I 
>>>lived next to for 15 years.
>>>
>>>The media was reporting on the "historic discovery," announced in 
>>>New York by Titanic film producer James Cameroon and Israeli 
>>>born-Canadian documentary maker Simcha Jacobovici, that the slab 
>>>probably covered the entrance to the Jesus Family Tomb!  The 
>>>stunning late February proclamation was intentionally timed to 
>>>promote their television program on that riveting theme, broadcast 
>>>one week later on the US Discovery Channel, and also in Great 
>>>Britain and here in Israel.
>>>
>>>I first got wind of the contention that the bones of Jesus and 
>>>family were unearthed in my humble neighborhood when the BBC 
>>>broadcast that momentous claim in a1996 television 
>>>documentary.  As I walked past the site in the months and years 
>>>after the screening, usually on my way to the nearby East Talpiot 
>>>supermarket and post office, I often recalled the relatively short 
>>>controversy that the British documentary sparked off.
>>>
>>>But this time, the dustup seems destined to linger much longer in 
>>>the air, coming as it does in the titanic wake of Dan Brown's best 
>>>selling Da Vinci Code and producer Ron Howard's subsequent blockbuster film.
>>>
>>>There is just one tiny problem with the super-hyped Jesus Tomb 
>>>claim: Nearly all archeological experts dismiss it out of hand, or 
>>>at least note it is both highly improbable and entirely 
>>>unprovable, and therefore hardly worth mentioning.
>>>
>>>By now, most everyone has heard the main reason why.  The Hebrew 
>>>names Yeshua (Jesus), Miriam (Mary), Judah, and Yoseph—all found 
>>>inscribed on stone burial ossuaries situated inside the ancient 
>>>tomb when it was discovered by Israeli construction workers in 
>>>1980—were extremely common monikers in the time of Jesus.  To 
>>>allege that they point to the family tomb of Christianity's 
>>>revered redeemer is a giant stretch, to say the least.
>>>
>>>But Cameroon and Jacobovici claim another name was found inside 
>>>the tomb that nearly seals their case—Mary Magdalene!  It is 
>>>almost statistically impossible that her unique second name would 
>>>be found with the others if we were not talking about the tomb of 
>>>the world renowned Jesus of Nazareth and his relatives, they maintain.
>>>
>>>American scholar Stephen Pfann, who serves as a locally trained 
>>>textual scholar and paleographer at Jerusalem's Holy Land 
>>>University, has just conducted an intensive examination of the 
>>>ossuary that supposedly held the bones of the Messiah's alleged 
>>>bride. He insists that the burial box is inscribed with two 
>>>apparently unrelated names, the second of them Mara, the Greek 
>>>version of Martha, not Magdalene.  He discerned that the two names 
>>>were etched in distinctive styles on the stone ossuary by clearly 
>>>different hands. Scholars have long known that such burial 
>>>receptacles often housed the bones of more than one person, mainly 
>>>for economic reasons.
>>>
>>>Professor Pfann, who I've known for many years, along with his 
>>>scholarly wife Claire, noted that neither Cameroon nor Jacobovici 
>>>are even remotely qualified to put forth such gargantuan 
>>>contentions, especially given the far reaching implications for 
>>>the historic Christian faith.  The Israeli filmmaker, who starred 
>>>in the ratings-rich TV program, shot back that scholars and 
>>>archeologists are simply upset that he and other modern 
>>>journalists and documentary makers are "breaking their monopoly" 
>>>on deciphering ancient artifacts.
>>>
>>>Although a professional journalist myself, I am quite happy to 
>>>have trained electricians fix my broken power lines in my stead, 
>>>experienced plumbers determine what is wrong with my kitchen 
>>>pipes, skilled physicians operate on my body, certified dentists 
>>>fill cavities in my teeth, knowledgeable mechanics work on my car, etc.
>>>
>>>As for my personal spiritual beliefs, I don't expect them to be 
>>>determined by colorful filmmakers working out of Hollywood or 
>>>Toronto, no matter how much mammon they procure from their sensational claims.
>>>
>>>
>>>----------
>>>DAVID DOLAN is a Jerusalem-based author and journalist who has 
>>>lived and worked in Israel since 1980.
>>>    * 
>>> <https://secure.arksupplies.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?search=action&category=BOOK&keywords=all>HOLY 
>>> WAR FOR THE PROMISED LAND (Broadman & Holman), his latest book, 
>>> is an overview of the history of the Israel and of the bitter 
>>> Arab-Israeli conflict that rages there, plus some 
>>> autobiographical details about the author's experiences living in 
>>> the land since 1980. It especially examines the important role 
>>> that militant Islam plays in the conflict.
>>>    * 
>>> <https://secure.arksupplies.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?search=action&category=BOOK&keywords=all>ISRAEL 
>>> IN CRISIS: WHAT LIES AHEAD? (Baker/Revell), which examines the 
>>> political and biblical prospects for a regional attack upon 
>>> Israel, settlement in the disputed territories, and related 
>>> topics, is also available for purchase, along with an updated 
>>> edition of his popular end-time novel, THE END OF DAYS (21st Century Press).
>>>
>>>You may order these books at a special discount price by visiting 
>>>his web site at <http://www.ddolan.com>www.ddolan.com, or by 
>>>phoning toll free 888-890-6938 in North America, or by e mail at: 
>>><mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]
>>>
>>>DOLAN'S NEW DVD, "FOR ZION'S SAKE" is now available for 
>>>purchase.  Click the title under "BOOKSTORE" for more details.
>>>
>>>TO RECEIVE THESE FREE ISRAEL UPDATES DIRECTLY, FOLLOW THE 
>>>DIRECTIONS BELOW. YOU WILL ONLY RECEIVE DAVID DOLAN'S UPDATE AND 
>>>ANALYSIS INFORMATION FROM THIS ADDRESS. THE LIST WILL NOT BE TRADED OR SOLD.
>>>
>>>TO SUBSCRIBE, go 
>>>to:  <http://www.ddolan.com/subscribe.asp>http://www.ddolan.com/subscribe.asp
>>>[]
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>2004
>>>
>>>
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>>End of forwarded message text:
>>
>>John
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>>3/15/2007 11:27 AM
>
>  "Most people walk in and out of your life....but Friends leave 
> footprints in your heart.""
>
>
>
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