I recall having explained what you said in your first two sentences, 
too.  But don't bother with getting your ducks in a row, or with 
digging stuff up.  It may take a shovel big enough to knock down all 
your ducks anyway.  Smile
Helen

Earlier you wrote:

>As for Hades, it is my understanding that is the Greek word in Luke 
>16.  The great gulf, and the 2 parts are in that passage, too.  No, 
>I don't have my ducks in a row on this one.  It is how I remember it 
>being explained.  If I were really ambitious, I could dig some stuff 
>from some commentaries.
>
>earlier, Helen Wolf, wrote:
>
>>Do you have scriptures or other sources concerning hell being 
>>hades, and it being divided into 2 parts?  So then paradise is not 
>>heaven?  And Jesus went to a holding place called hades before 
>>ascending to the Father's right hand?
>>How long did Abraham remain in that place?
>>More questions than answers,
>>Helen

"My Life is not in what He gives me, but in Who He is."