I'll take what I can get too, but I won't complain about what I can't get.
If I see a way to get what I want I'll try for it but I still say while
things may not be totally 100% accessible, if you can to all the important
functions of it,and can make it work, it's not inaccessible either and some
times you have to take what you can get. Yaesu, just flat doesn't care as
they've demonstrated time and time again and we can't do most of the
important functions on them, in fact, some sighted people can't do
everything they want with a yaesu radio and yaesu doesn't care. What's worse
is their quality control is garbage over the last few years and who ever
designs the radios especially the vx7, probably the 6 too must be a complete
moron. The easiest button to hit on those radios practically, the number 7,
turns on the ARTS feature, with that on every time some one keys up on that
radio, no one hears what they say, just a touch tone for a second or so,
then it comes up. I can't tell you how many people I've had to tell recently
to hit the number 7 because no one really knows that that feature is around
here. That company just has issues from the lack of accessibility, to
quality control, if there even is any, I wonder lately, to the design of the
radios with menus for rocket scientists only and all.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: off topic xm and serious
> John,
>
> I think it depends on which receiver you have. Even if I'm wrong, and I
> may
> very well be, *my* point is that if we could read the display (or hear
> what
> it says) we would know for certain. I don't intend to whine about
> products
> that aren't accessible, and I certainly will continue to buy the products
> I
> want even if they do not have speech. A case in point is my 2010, which
> I've had for over 20 years. I've been able to use most of the radio's
> features, but it sure would have been nice if I could have set the clock
> without asking one of my kids to help me. They never minded, but I would
> still have liked to do it without their help.
>
> On the other hand, I won't deny that having speech access is a powerful
> inducement to buy a particular product. That's why I bought my 480. I
> know
> there are better radios out there, but I really enjoy having almost full
> access to the radio. For all you say about not caring whether or not you
> have speech access, I seem to recall that you have been pretty outspoken
> in
> your criticism of Yaesu for not making their radios accessible. I, for
> one,
> am not ashamed to admit that I like as much access as I can get, and if I
> see a way to get it, I'll take advantage of the opportunity.
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 12:01
> Subject: Re: off topic xm and serious
>
>
>> you do *not* need the menu to turn on the FM transmitter, just disconnect
>> any audio cables hooked up already weather it's to a stereo receiver or
>> the
>> headphones, and it will turn on automatically. I've had mine for a year
>> and
>> a half.
>> As I said on a list where people were getting childish over it so I left,
>> they can't make everything speak and bitching about it doesn't do any
>> good
>> so you have to either live with it or not have 90% of what I'm sure you
>> already have. If you work hard enough with somehting, there is very
>> little
>> out there you can't use 90+ percent of and the XM receivers I've had, and
>> have now, are no exception to that. In fact, 1 I could do everything and
>> I
>> didn't use 90% of it. I just didn't get the song title on the display, if
>> you listen, you can 9 times out of 10 figure it out anyway. I sure hope
>> this
>> discussion isn't going to get as bad here as it did on that other list, I
>> left that list because of discussions like that twice, the second time
>> being
>> for ever. I didn't have time to delete close to 500 messages a day,
>> hopefully that won't happen here.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: off topic xm and serious
>>
>>
>>> Matt,
>>>
>>> Since you've only had your receiver for two weeks, do you even know what
>>> functions the menu has? Granted, you can perform the absolute basics
>>> without going into a menu, but there are lots of things that absolutely
>>> require you to use menus. For example, you need to go into menus to set
>>> up
>>> a timed recording. You also have to use the menu if you want to set the
>>> frequency for the built-in FM transmitter, or even turn it on.
>>>
>>> It's certainly true that we don't absolutely need speech, but it sure
>>> would
>>> be nice to be able to operate our appliances with the same ease as
>>> sighted
>>> people do. It's like so many other things: we can get along without
>>> them
>>> if
>>> we have to, but I get kind of frustrated when I pay money for something
>>> and
>>> can't take advantage of half the features because I can't read the
>>> display.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "matt v" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 10:31
>>> Subject: Re: off topic xm and serious
>>>
>>>
>>>> not sure about one using speech, but i don't think you have to do much
>>>> with menus as i have had mine for 2 weeks but never gone into a menu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> pro is to con as progress is to congress
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Richard Fiorello wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi;
>>>>> Is a receiver available with speech for menus? How extensive is the
>>>>> menu
>>>>> system and how often to you really have to get into it?
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "matt v" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 9:38 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: off topic xm and serious
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> well i have the myfi receiver which isn't of course adapted with
>>>>> speech
>>>>> like some people on a certain list i won't mention, are whining about,
>>>>> but
>>>>> it is easy to use, it has direct keypad entry, and other than that, i
>>>>> really don't mess with menus so i don't know even what i'm missing
>>>>> and well, some people will tell you you cant use the myfi in a home
>>>>> kit,
>>>>> well, at least 2 of us on this list are, one of them is me so..you
>>>>> know
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> pro is to con as progress is to congress
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Richard Fiorello wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone;I accidentally ran across a broadcast of a congressional
>>>>>> committee interviewing the chairman of xm and serious concerning the
>>>>>> proposed merger. Sounds like this is far from a done deal but it
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> interesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any particular units that are more user friendly and have
>>>>>> superior
>>>>>> performance? Any specific things to look for?
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
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