Harvey and all:

I don't know if it'd do any good, but maybe  someone on the list would like
to forward this info onto the tech people at Freedom Scientific, so that
they could start designing a fix for the problem for the next major Jaws
upgrade.

In fact, now that I think of it, isn't it about time for Jaws 8.0 to come
out?

I thought the new upgrades came out in September, or at least sometime in
the Fall of each year.

Anyway, this is just a thought.

73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harvey" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:24 AM
Subject: Fw: Heads up: NortonAntivirus/Norton Internet Security 2007
incompatib...


> Keep in mind that this is one person's opinion, but I thought maybe people
> should see this who are thinking of buying Norton 2007.  73.
> Harvey Heagy (N.5.H.A.U.)
>
>
> Hello, As a long time user of Symantec products, I am saddened to inform
> everyone that the new Norton 2007 products are no longer compatible with
> Jaws. After purchasing Norton Internet Security 2007, and performing
> extensive testing on it, I've determined the following.
> * A blind person is unable to activate the product without sighted
> assistance. if Jaws is loaded, the Activation program immediately quits,
> rather than displaying its dialogs. This happens during the setup process,
> and causes your installation to be left in an unusable state. Fixing this
> requires sighted assistance to get through the activation process, at
which
> time the product (mostly) repairs itself.
> * Once the product is installed, configuration is exceedingly difficult.
The
> software is completely inaccessible from the keyboard, Unlike it previous
> versions the interface does not appear to take advantage of the Windows
> built in html rendering facilities, instead using its own rendering
method.
> All configuration must be done with the jaws cursor, and Jaws's ability to
> see things like buttons is eratic at best. (admittedly, it may be possible
> to improve this via the use of a tool like Hotspot clicker, but getting to
a
> state where you could would require heavy sighted intevention, and its
> questionable as to whether it would be worth it.) * When the product tries
> to alert with Jaws loaded (at least on my machine), it instead blue
screens
> and reboots. I tested this with the standard antivirus test. Eicar?
> (not sure on the spelling), which is a harmless .com file intended to do
> nothing but trigger antivirus products. (all products use this as a
> standard, "hello world" test.)
>
> The combination of the three above points leads me to believe that ongoing
> persistance with this product would prove fruitless.
> (Note: while I did not perform testing with Window Eyes, it has been my
> experience in the past that WE has been less effective at accessing the
> Norton interfaces when they were accessible, so I have no reason to
believe,
> and hence no inclination to try it, that the situation with 2007 would be
> any better, in fact, I suspect it would be dramaticly worse).
>
> This message is a heads up to advise others not to buy the Norton
> 2007 products. if you are a Norton user, stick with 2006, as that is, at
> least, accessible. If not, then it looks like its now time to find a new
> package.
>