Hi Brett.
I think the struggle between the brightest and the slowest students has
always been a struggle in public education, and I think it will always be
so. I see it even with group instruction in adult populations. It is just
one of the facets of people being individuals with individual strengths and
weaknesses.
73, de Lou K2LKK
At 04:59 PM 12/18/2006 -0700, you wrote:
>Lou you have a point. I world scream vociferously if I lost privileges
>as my wife has done with her tech plus. She got that one before there
>was a two tier Tech ticket. As an advanced likewise I would be most
>disappointed if I lost advance portions of the bands but I think some
>remain or actually generals came up to our level of entry.
>
>As for basics in education, I am not sure I could pass the reading and
>writing exit exams here in Idaho. It would require that I go back and
>read the same material as exit testing teaches the kids to pass tests as
>that is all the teachers have time and motivation to focus on. They
>cannot teach except in extracurricular or accelerated classes the
>concepts of how to teach one's self as in a interdisciplinary zoology or
>number theory class for mathematics. Even the horticulture class my 4.0
>daughter took her senior year she tells me did not go far enough. She
>was the top student in the class and wishes she could have had more
>opportunity but alas others in her class slowed everyone else down. =20
>
>
>
>BRETT WINCHESTER
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: For blind ham radio operators
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Louis Kim Kline
>Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 4:47 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: The joy of C W
>
>Hi.
>
>This is straying a little off topic, but I had to respond to Brett's=20
>point. I will grant that there is some things that many people would
>find=20
>complex about testing in our current education system, but where I fault
>
>the American education system is that it does not adequately address the
>
>basics--that every person who graduates has good general reading skills,
>
>and that people can still do basic math without the aid of a=20
>calculator. Probably most people under thirty don't even think that is=20
>important, but I've had the experience of having to try to deal with=20
>someone in a checkout situation who couldn't get the answer out of the=20
>machine and couldn't figure it out for themselves. It is kind of fun=20
>though to stand there in line and calculate the sales tax while they are
>
>trying to punch it into the register and then hand them the exact change
>as=20
>soon as they spit out the answer. I usually get a response like "How
>did=20
>you know?"
>
>I think it is this kind of lack of attention to basics and the
>willingness=20
>to rely too much on the machine that is the basis for the feelings that
>I=20
>see being expressed here.
>
>Whether one compares the CW argument to this type of thing is probably a
>
>source of endless debate, and my own personal opinion is the CW is still
>a=20
>mode of operation worth possessing expertise in because of its weak
>signal=20
>capabilities, but in my opinion, it is probably not as important as some
>of=20
>the basic education problems in this country.
>
>Were it left up to me, I probably would leave the requirements in for=20
>Extra, but allow them to be removed from the General class so that
>people=20
>who do not wish to do CW can get a full experience of HF phone, anyway.
>
>I am sure that there are those out there who would not be satisfied with
>
>that, and fortunately for those guys, they won out, so it doesn't really
>
>matter.
>
>73, de Lou K2LKK
>
>
>
>At 11:52 AM 12/18/2006 -0700, you wrote:
> >Phil, et al.,
> >
> >I am not so sure I agree with you as after seeing some of the required
> >testing for high school graduation I am sure I would need to do some
> >studying first as not all the answers are self evident nor were they
> >reasonably close to memory recall that they easily could be answered.
> >And this all this after completing college and who knows how much
> >additional training since. =3D20
> >
> >Oh yes the GPA was above average here. =3D20
> >
> >
> >
> >BRETT WINCHESTER
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> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: For blind ham radio operators
> >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phil Scovell
> >Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 11:02 AM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: The joy of C W
> >
> >Ed,
> >
> >You've got a good point there, especially when we have people
>graduating
> >from high school who can't read. That's why I say that I am afraid
>that
> >within my life time, the FCC might even ban the CW mode.
> >
> >Phil.
> >K0NX
>
>Louis Kim Kline
>A.R.S. K2LKK
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