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Sheila Killian <[log in to unmask]>
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The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 23 Jul 2006 17:20:58 -0700
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Hi Carol and all!
Thank you for your understanding. I agree with you. I would also like to see 
church members be more forthcoming with offering assistance. Sadly, though, 
I've experienced a good deal of difficulty in this area. I have had, on a 
number of occasions, hired other christians or members of my church who 
worked out quite satisfactorily for a while. However, there often seemed to 
be an underlying attitude that even though they were getting a paycheck this 
wasn't a real job anyway. They really believed they were just performing 
their christian duty helping me out by doing me this favor.

Blessings,
Sheila and Vinnie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carol Pearson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: A FEW PROBLEMS FOR PRAYER, PLEASE


: Thank you, dear Sheila, for your added support and of course that of all 
on
: this list.
:
: Yes, we had a very similar situation in a church once some years ago when
: asking if anyone wished to take on a paid cleaner's job for us.  In
: response, we heard someone say "They need to go to Social Services", which
: was a sentiment to which almost all others appeared to agree.  A dear 84
: year old around said she'd have gladly come to help us if her health had
: been good enough!
:
: --
: Carol - Reading, UK
:
: To you, o Lord, I lift up my soul;
: In You I trust, o my God.  . . .."  PS25:1-2 NIV.
:
:
: ----- Original Message ----- 
: From: "Sheila Killian" <[log in to unmask]>
: To: <[log in to unmask]>
: Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 4:12 AM
: Subject: Re: A FEW PROBLEMS FOR PRAYER, PLEASE
:
:
: > Hi Carol!
: > I wanted to add my prayers to those who are praying for a Godly solution
: > for
: > your problem and need of help with
: > various tasks. I certainly know what it is like to be without the
: > essential
: > help you need! I am in that spot right now myself.  Here is a little sad
: > tale of asking for help from folks at church. Last Sunday, after the
: > service, I was mingling with other church members in the garden, when 
this
: > woman came up to me and inquired if I had put the note in the bulletin
: > about
: > needing help. I told her "no. It wasn't me, but in fact, I did need help
: > quite badly at this time! She asked me what sort of help I needed. She
: > said
: > that she would be more than happy to help me in any way she could. I
: > answered that I very much needed help with reading my mail. Her response
: > startled and saddened me! She replied, "oh, that would be a very special
: > sort of help indeed!That's really not something I could possibly do!" 
And
: > then she made small talk for a minute or so and then simply walked away
: > from
: > me as quickly as she could. I wonder what she would have been willing to
: > do.
: > Am I missing something here? I realize that reading another's mail is a
: > very
: > private thing, and maybe I forget that others' cannot even imagine sutch 
a
: > thing! It is difficult for me not to have a negative response or be
: > judgmental toward others with this kind of reaction.
: > I use my scanner for a good bit of my mail, but some things just aren't
: > real
: > possible to read with it.
: >
: > Sheila and Vinnie
: > ----- Original Message ----- 
: > From: "Carol Pearson" <[log in to unmask]>
: > To: <[log in to unmask]>
: > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 1:43 AM
: > Subject: Re: A FEW PROBLEMS FOR PRAYER, PLEASE
: >
: >
: > : Hi Dave and all,
: > :
: > : Well, there's been a development here, so I'm going to share it with 
all
: > : both for prayer and to show you how the Lord has worked - so sit back
: > with
: > a
: > : cuppa and pin back those ears . . ..
: > :
: > : After our friend had been to this elder and Mike had subsequently 
spoken
: > : with him, he told Mike "He was still praying and thinking of us". 
This
: > made
: > : us kind of mad really because all the prayer in the world, if you 
don't
: > give
: > : the coat you own, won't keep your friend warm!  But I must not judge 
and
: > : must continue to love my brother . . ..  I sought the Lord about my
: > attitude
: > : and told Him I wanted him to do what He would to bring about right
: > responses
: > : of my heart and opportunity to ensure that things were put right.  For 
a
: > few
: > : days He said nothing to me and I gently reminded Him that I wouldn't
: > : (couldn't) move until He did.  . . ..
: > :
: > : Yesterday I got up early to see an "Urgent Prayer" email.  It was from
: > our
: > : church asking for urgent prayer as our friend's wife (a very good 
friend
: > of
: > : mine for some years before I came to live here again four years ago) 
had
: > : been taken into hospital in the middle of the night following a 
seizure.
: > : She was still bearly conscious yesterday, early afternoon and didn't
: > appear
: > : to recognise her husband.  They'd done a CT scan which looked clear.
: > They
: > : had made a decision not to perform a lumber puncture but to give drugs
: > : anyway just in case it was a form of Meningitis, though this is not 
very
: > : likely.  They did however find her to be extremely dehydrated and her
: > sodium
: > : levels (by last night) were still very low.  She was by that stage off
: > the
: > : ventilator and oxygen and had been able to understand she was in
: > hospital.
: > :
: > : Again I have prayed for them though have found this difficult.  There 
is
: > : nothing practical that I can do, but I have agreed with the Lord about
: > : something which I may be able to do later.  Other than this, I am no
: > further
: > : to getting an opportunity to sort out this situation.
: > :
: > : Meantime we asked our closest friend, who bails us out of every 
crisis,
: > to
: > : pop by regularly over the next month or so, just to keep other matters
: > going
: > : until we can sort out some more permanent solution.  We don't want him
: > to
: > be
: > : involved on a longer term basis because he already carries a large 
load,
: > has
: > : a family to support and is not physically as strong as some.
: > :
: > : There has however been a further development which we think is
: > significant
: > : and the Lord's absolute timing is really wonderful!  I'll spare you 
the
: > : details here.  (Dave, being up with procedures here you'll understand
: > the
: > : thrust of this one.)  Finally, after what would appear to be an
: > unacceptable
: > : delay, bungles, inefficiency, bad reporting etc by our Social Services
: > over
: > : about sixteen months, we got a call earlier in the week and then a 
visit
: > : yesterday from someone who knew what she was talking about, was 
pleasant
: > and
: > : kind and wanted us to have the money allowed for us to employ more 
help
: > to
: > : meet our daily living needs.  This will take a while to go through and
: > still
: > : has to get a "Yes" from the high-ups, so I'd value prayers about this.
: > This
: > : independent monitary support would enable us to specifically pay for 
the
: > : kind of needs to be met which are essential and some have been met by
: > : friends from church and we have had to do the best we could in other
: > ways.
: > : I personally believe this is waht the church should be doing, but 
there
: > are
: > : those who do not agree with me, so I accept gladly the Lord's 
provision,
: > : even if it does sadden me greatly that brothers and sisters will not
: > extend
: > : their care.
: > :
: > : Well, back to the Throne of Grace, please!
: > :
: > : I'll keep you posted about our friend's progress.  Oh, by the way,
: > although
: > : she could not focus on others or recognise her husband, she was 
calling
: > out
: > : to the Lord for His help!  Amen!
: > :
: > : --
: > : Carol - Reading, UK
: > :
: > : To you, o Lord, I lift up my soul;
: > : In You I trust, o my God.  . . .."  PS25:1-2 NIV.
: > :
: > :
: > : ----- Original Message ----- 
: > : From: "David Weston" <[log in to unmask]>
: > : To: <[log in to unmask]>
: > : Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 8:58 AM
: > : Subject: Re: A FEW PROBLEMS FOR PRAYER, PLEASE
: > :
: > :
: > : > Carol,
: > : >
: > : > Thank you for you openness to us. We will continue praying for your
: > needs
: > : > and that the Lord will bring some one else into you life that can 
meet
: > : > your
: > : > needs.
: > : >
: > : > Love, David and Ginny Weston.
: > :
: > :
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