The wise men did not go to a cave.  They didn't come until the Lord 
Jesus was 2 years old, in a house.

earlier, Angel, wrote:

>It also shows if the king of glory can be born in a place with 
>manure that high, and a stench which would knock anyone over than 
>how can we judge the circumstances of others?  How can we say to 
>ourselves, I can't go to that persons house because it is full of 
>refuse, or the person or house smells. Mary didn't tell Joseph, or 
>God, I deserve better than to bare my child in a dirty smelly 
>cave.  My theology teacher said the reason the Angels first appeared 
>to the shepherds was because they stank of sheep.  They had to sleep 
>with them outdoors because of the smell.  The wise men , as well, 
>must have been very special to not complained but just worshiped and 
>gave thanks.
>----- Original Message ----- From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" 
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>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 6:15 AM
>Subject: Re: Where Jesus Was Born
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>>When you think about where He was born it is very humbling!  Only 
>>someone who loved us would make this kind of sacrifice so that we 
>>may live and have eternal life if we accept Him as our Savior.
>>Praise His Holy Name.
>>Virgie and Hoshi
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:34 AM
>>Subject: Where Jesus Was Born
>>
>>
>>>     Bill Rice has been dead for many years.  He was a cowboy
>>>early on in his life.  He later went into ministry work.  When he
>>>died, he owned a 1500 acre ranch out east in one of the Carolinas,
>>>as I recall, but his full time ministry had turned into a ministry
>>>for the deaf.  Every summer, about 1500 deaf people came to his
>>>ranch and would spend two or three weeks on the ranch.  They rode
>>>horses, camped out, sat around huge bond fires, and those trained
>>>in sign language would translate everything, including the Bible
>>>studies they had, and the preaching services.
>>>
>>>     Bill went to the Bible lands once, maybe more than once, but
>>>this one time I know about, he said, during an off time, he asked
>>>the guide to take him to a place that he, the guide, thought was
>>>like where Jesus was born.  The guide explained to him that
>>>throughout Palestine, especially in those days, they didn't need
>>>stables or barns because of all the thousands of small caves.  Of
>>>course, many were buried in such caves.  Anybody come to mind
>>>right off you can think of?  Jesus for example?  Anyhow, before
>>>speaking on this same topic today at church, I read through the
>>>Christmas stories, so called, and realizing I didn't see the word
>>>"stable" in the stories, I did a computer search.  I was positive
>>>I had read the word "stable" in the birth of Jesus passages of
>>>Scriptures.  Guess what?  The word isn't even in the Gospels.
>>>Yes, it says he was wrapped in swaddling clothes and laid in a
>>>manger, but it says nothing about a barn or a stable.
>>>
>>>     Bill rice said the guide took him to a cave which had been
>>>used once as a stable for farm animals.  The cave was empty at the
>>>time so Bill asked the man if it was ok for him to go inside.  The
>>>guide said that there was no light but he was welcome to enter.
>>>Bill said when he stepped inside, the smell nearly knocked him
>>>out.  This coming from a cowboy who was used to being around such
>>>smells.  Secondly, Bill said that the manure he stepped into came
>>>nearly to his boot tops.  the entire cave was this way.  He moved
>>>around and examined the manger that was there.  He stood in this
>>>cave and realized for the first time in his life, this was the
>>>true humble birth of the God of the universe.  He said it changed
>>>his life just thinking about it.  It has changed my life since I
>>>heard this story.  I trust it will change your thoughts about
>>>Christmas and who Jesus really is.  Think of it.  If this was like
>>>the place Jesus was born, he was born in a cave, was buried in a
>>>cave, and rose again from a cave.  Go Jesus.  Show 'em.
>>>
>>>Phil.
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