The deutercanonicle books is their proper name but I said the apocrypha
because I couldn't spell deutercanonicle. The only advantage to the set I
have is the size.  It comes in a unit which is as small as a cassette.  You
can carry it around with head phones and listen on the bus, or wherever you
are.  The batteries last forever almost, and you can search and bookmark
your favorite passages easily.  The translation is not the best in my
opinion.  I was turned off by hearing the "Ark of the covenant" called the
"sacred chest".  Though that is what it is.  I don't exactly know who does
these translations.  The older translations are more beautiful to be sure.
I was so happy when I got my Bible currier for that reason, though as you
mentioned these resources if you had the book currier which comes from the
American Printing house you would have access to the same features, as the
devices are basically the same.  The book currier costs more, of course, but
you can download any books you choose not only sacred scriptures and have
the same portability.  I didn't know the deutercanonicle books were
available through these other facilities.  Don't ever be afraid to speak up
and say whatever you think.  After all, what are the others on the list
going to do, crucify you?  Ha
Ha.  That was a joke son. They are truly a loving group.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sheila Killian" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <ECHURCH-U        [log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: Intercessory Prayer


> Hi Angel,
> Thank you for your message, and thank you also for your support and being
> here on the list and speaking up. You help me to be more confident about
> speaking up as well.
> I haven't seen that version of the bible. I am thinking of getting it
> though. I do have the apocrypha often called the deutercanonicle books of
> the bible. You can get some of the books in braille from the xavier
society.
> I downloaded it from bookshare.org and I may as well have downloaded it
from
> Web braille. It is, I am quite certain, available from Project Gutenberg
> which can be easily accessed through either Kurzweil or Openbook programs.
> I really enjoy reading them. They are really quite beautiful.
> Blessings,
> Sheila and Vinnie
>
> let all be harmonious, sympathetic, brotherly, kindhearted, and humble in
> spirit; not returning evil for evil or insult for insult, but giving
> a blessing instead; for you were called for the very purpose that you
might
> inherit a blessing." (I Peter 3: 7-9)
> -----
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Intercessory Prayer
>
>
> :I love you for saying this.  This is just what we believe.  It is good to
> : have such support on the list.  It is amazing.  I got this contemporary
> : English Version of the bible with the apocrypha from the Lutheran
Braille
> : Evangelism Association.  It has along with it Luther's Little Catechism.
> I
> : read it and it isn't so different than the basics of our faith.  It is
> : amazing how similar the Lutherans who were the first protestants, or was
> : that Henry viii, is to The Catholic faith.
> : ----- Original Message -----
> : From: "Sheila Killian" <[log in to unmask]>
> : To: <[log in to unmask]>
> : Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 7:48 PM
> : Subject: Re: Intercessory Prayer
> :
> :
> : > Throughout my life and certainly while I've been on the echurch list I
> : have
> : > asked others to pray for me. Many others have asked me to pray for
them
> as
> : > well. This is a wonderful gift we have, that of being able to pray for
> one
> : > another. I see no difference in asking those souls who are still on
> earth
> : > and living in human bodies and those souls in heaven to pray for me.
> : > Catholics do not pray to the blessed virgin Mary or to various saints,
> : > rather, we  ask them to pray for us , in exactly the same way as we
> would
> : > ask anyone here to pray for us,  to intercede for us, to God the
Father
> in
> : > the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
> : > Blessings,
> : > Sheila and Vinnie
> : >
> : > let all be harmonious, sympathetic, brotherly, kindhearted, and humble
> in
> : > spirit; not returning evil for evil or insult for insult, but giving
> : > a blessing instead; for you were called for the very purpose that you
> : might
> : > inherit a blessing." (I Peter 3: 7-9)
> : > -----
> : > ----- Original Message -----
> : > From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> : > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> : > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 4:12 PM
> : > Subject: Re: Intercessory Prayer
> : >
> : >
> : > : Angel,
> : > :
> : > : An intercessor isn't praying for you, they are praying with you.  We
> : don't
> : > : pray to intercessors because there is no need when you can pray
> directly
> : > to
> : > : the Father through Jesus Christ.  It might sound confusing but
that's
> : only
> : > : because humans are explaining it.  Jesus isn't confused about it at
> all.
> : > :
> : > : Phil.
> : > :
> : > : He's ready when you are.
> : > : www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
> : > :
> : > :
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> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : > let all be harmonious, sympathetic, brotherly, kindhearted, and humble
> in
> : > spirit; not returning evil for evil or insult for insult, but giving
> : > a blessing instead; for you were called for the very purpose that you
> : might
> : > inherit a blessing." (I Peter 3: 7-9)
> : > -----
> : > ----- Original Message -----
> : > From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
> : > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> : > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 3:27 PM
> : > Subject: Re: Intercessory Prayer
> : >
> : >
> : > :I am confused.  If protestants say we are only to pray to Jesus or to
> God
> : > in
> : > : Jesus' name and we aren't to pray to the saints in heaven asking
them
> : too
> : > : intercede on our behalf, how on earth are we to pray to living
humans
> to
> : > : intercede for us?  It would seem a contradiction.  If we aren't to
> pray
> : to
> : > : the saints and the blessed virgin it would seem we aren't to ask any
> one
> : > to
> : > : pray for us.  I don't understand.  Your faith is so confusing.
> : > : ----- Original Message -----
> : > : From: "Carol Pearson" <[log in to unmask]>
> : > : To: <[log in to unmask]>
> : > : Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 5:57 PM
> : > : Subject: Re: Intercessory Prayer
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : > Yes, Phil, I know of him.  I wonder if David Sheets (whom I know a
> : > little
> : > : > and who is now in the States but can't remember where) is any
> : relation?
> : > : >
> : > : > Well, I know how much you're dying for us to ask you to write an
> : article
> : > : on
> : > : > intercessory prayer, whether we think we know anything about it or
> : not,
> : > so
> : > : > "Shoot" as they say over there! - Just make sure you miss me with
> that
> : > : > bullet!
> : > : >
> : > : > --
> : > : > Carol - Reading, UK
> : > : >
> : > : > To you, o Lord, I lift up my soul;
> : > : > In You I trust, o my God.  . . .."  PS25:1-2 NIV.
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > ----- Original Message -----
> : > : > From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> : > : > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> : > : > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 10:42 PM
> : > : > Subject: Intercessory Prayer
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > > Anybody on here, besides Venny, ever hear of Dutch Sheets?
Nope.
> : Not
> : > a
> : > : > > name I'd pick for one of my kids either.  Anyhow, he pastors a
> : church
> : > : out
> : > : > > here in Colorado but he is big on intercessory prayer.  I bought
> his
> : > six
> : > : > > tapes, which follow the book he wrote that Vinny shared with me
a
> : > couple
> : > : > > of
> : > : > > years ago, and this is the only guy I have run across who I
think
> : has
> : > it
> : > : > > right about intercessory prayer.  Anyway, I thought I would
> mention
> : it
> : > : in
> : > : > > case someone might be trying to find out what in the Sam hill an
> : > : > > intercessor
> : > : > > is in the first place.
> : > : > >
> : > : > > Phil.
> : > : > >
> : > : > >
> : > : > > He's ready when you are.
> : > : > > www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
> : > :
> : > :
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