Mary,
I haven't read much of it but I'll give it a look.
--
Carol
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----- Original Message -----
From: "MariJean Mizrahi" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: READING AND RESPONDING TO DIFFERENT TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE
> Hi there Carol,
>
> What you do think of the ESV? Our Pastor uses it in his sermons and, I
> love the wording in it. Are you familiar with it? Thoughts? Opinions?
> Please share them.
>
> Luv in HIM,
>
> Mari, who dearly hopes I may continue to close like that. It really spoke
> to my heart the first time I read it.
>
>
>
> At 03:54 AM 7/6/2006, you wrote:
>>Hi there Sharon, and all,
>>
>>Hmmm! I have been thinking over the past hour or two, since seeing your
>>message . . .. (I've taken the liberty of changing the subject header
>>here because some may find that "upgrading" thought a little tackey.
>>
>>First, in full defence of the AV, I am very prepared to agree its
>>outstanding accuracy and truthfulness and the need for this in the Church.
>>I know and respect those who feel so passionately they wouldn't use
>>anything else! (I even know some on this list and I reckon they won't
>>keep quiet for too long <SMILE>!)
>>
>>For me, I grew up with the AV and learned and got to know its wording so
>>well that, if I am imprisoned or without a Bible in later years, I know
>>these are the words I will be crying out! Therefore, there is something
>>very special for me about the AV.
>>
>>However, alongside this, I do find its archaic, old English language both
>>a bit sweet and treakley and certainly it's something which I do not fully
>>understand or identify with. For example, I even find 1 Corinthians 13
>>causes me to feel I'm being called (though not drawn) to the litergy of
>>the church and not the real meaning of the passage on occasions,
>>especially when this is delivered in a large church with a lot of echo,
>>and for me there are far better, more modern, translations of that lovely
>>passage. It is for this reason that I still read the old but also more
>>modern translations and allow God to speak with me and refresh me as I do
>>so!
>>
>>Your example in Luke 7 is so right, to my mind. "Cry" and "weep" are
>>words I understand and appreciate, and even think there is a difference
>>between them, and that comment is based on my own experience. Why say
>>something more when these words are adequate!
>>
>>I don't want to say too much about individual versions, but I do keep a
>>copy of the NIV around on my BrailleNote because it sort of is the general
>>version I can keep with me. I love, love the Amplified, when I want to
>>think some more about words! There are some very refreshing things about
>>The Message Bible also. In some ways its language gets me a bit hot under
>>the collar (perhaps it's a little over the top in some of its "American
>>expression" for us Britts) but in others I find it refreshing. It seems
>>to move on a pace that cannot be conveyed to me as I read the AV. I think
>>you would like to read the Message and maybe you already have it. (The
>>Message also uses the word "cry" in that passage, by the way, Sharon.)
>>
>>Finally, here's one further thought which I want to convey and it's meant
>>by no means to take away any of the truth and reverence of the older
>>versions of the Bible. My thinking goes something like this: "Well,
>>Jesus expresses Himself to us in ways we can understand. He meets us
>>where we are. He speaks words in the church which often are brought by
>>younger, enthusiastic ones whose language understanding and presentation
>>is more like the Message than the AV. So be it! God will still speak His
>>truth into hungry hearts! God will still make His ways known! I
>>personally don't want to examine every word etc for its accuracy either,
>>because I'm not that kind of scholar, but I do want to be blessed inside
>>as I read His word!
>>
>>Anyway, I'm off my soap box now. Have been up many hours so guess it's
>>brunchtime for me!
>>
>>--
>>Carol
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>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Hooley" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:27 AM
>>Subject: Upgrading Versions of the bible?
>>
>>
>>>Well Julie, of course the Bible doesn't change, but our understanding of
>>>some things in the bible can change as we grow in the Lord, and maybe
>>>it's possible to "upgrade" as far as contemporary language is concerned,
>>>not to change the meaning of what the Bible says, but to speak our
>>>everyday language. Unfortunately, many of those who create a new
>>>translation tend to try to make the bible say what they want it to say,
>>>instead of what it's really saying. Personally, I want my bible to speak
>>>the language I use, not the ancient language of the KJV, as long as the
>>>modern translation is accurate. From the bible, I wish I could hear
>>>things like, "Serving God is so much fun! So cool!" But I need to
>>>remind myself that, even if I read it in an ancient language, it can be
>>>just as expressive as we are today. For example, there's the story about
>>>when Jesus approached a funeral procession. His hart went out to the
>>>widow who had just lost her son. In the KJV, we read, "Weep not." But
>>>in the NIV, (which may not be a perfectly accurate translation), we hear
>>>Him simply saying, "Don't cry." I would rather hear the latter, but
>>>maybe, just maybe, Jesus is depicted just as strongly compassionate,
>>>affectionate and comforting, in the KJV. What are your thoughts?
>>>
>>>Sharon
>>
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