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Skipper Beers <[log in to unmask]>
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>  Joan McPhee <[log in to unmask]>
>  Subject: Re:
 My hypertension is now
> well
>  > under control, on beta blockers, so I do wonder if the Synthroid may have
>  > helped the hypertension, that is, if the hypertension was secondary to
>  > hypothyroidism
Beta blockers - I read the side effects and there's something I'm not about
to take.  It bothers me when they have words in the side effects that means
"death" they ought to just come out and say it instead of hiding it.  And if
a side effect is rare, is that because in the double blind study, whatever
that is, the patients died and it wasn't attributed to the medicine, the
patient had side effects he didn't report because he didn't think there could
be a relationship between the medicine and the "pressure in his head" or the
seizures?  (Cipro side effects, I had the first and quit before I got the
second and now my first choice of antibiotic is penicillin if absolutely
necessary, nothing that causes emotional distress like augmentin, or any
mixed drug.)  How ofter have you had side effects that got into those
pamphlets showing them?  You had a problem, quit the medicine or suffered
through it, but no one put it in writing in the list of side effects.
>
  John C. Lower, in "The Metabolic Treatment of Fibromyalgia" has this to say:
>  "Because hypertension is so common, it should not be surprising that some
>  hypothyroid patients, like some fibromyalgia patients, are hypertensive.
Nor should it be surprising when a hypothryoid patient gets treatment that
his blood pressure goes down.  Mine was never in a treatment range, except
when thyrotoxic because my doctor put me on too much Synthroid to start with,
but it was a little elevated.  Now it's normally 120/80 as is my wife's who
the doctor wanted to put on beta blockers, but she fortunately found good
thyroid treatment instead.  (Dr. Donald Michael, South Bend, IN
219-287-6010).

>  In addition, beta blockers suppress production of thyroid hormone.
Which is only slightly better than the veiled symptoms meaning "death."  With
low thyroid instead of a quick death, one normally has years of suffering
from pain, fatigue, mental problems, and all kinds of things you wouldn't
wish on your worst enemy.

>  > The hypertension is hereditary plus environmental factors like stress
>  > (not smoking, poor diet or lack of exercise).  My feeling is that I was
>  > not hypothyroid in the first place, but the Syn. is making me
"Hypertension is hereditary."  When someone uses the term this condition is
heredity it has a tendency to anger me.  The reason for that is I know they
don't want to hear logic or evidence, they don't have hypertension because
hypothryoidism is also hereditary and causes hypertension, no that has
nothing to do with it, they are hypertensive because their mother was and she
was never diagnosed as hypothryoid, so because it's inherited that overrules
any possible cause.

Synthroid, that is synthetic thryoid hormone makes you more hypo?  What it
did for me in the beginning was to make me hyper caused by the doctor
prescribing too much.  This raised my blood pressure, my pulse, made me make
an emergency visit to her office because I thought I might die if I didn't.
Being hyper made me tired, it was quite an unpleasant feeling.

Could Synthroid make someone more hypo?  It wouldn't surprise me,. I hate
that synthetic medicine.  I don't know how they make it, someone said it was
an oil product.  Synthetic T3 seems to be fine.  Synthetic T4 doesn't.  At
least for me.


>  > So, at the same time as I started the Synthroid, I dropped all
>  > soya and now eat chicken and fish again and regular milk.  My theory
>  > (and I am only a lay person) is that I do NOT need Synthroid, that my
>  > TSH may have got low because of soya, (as per readings on this list and
>  > elsewhere on Net) and that Synthroid will destroy it altogether.
Your theory could be correct.  Dropping the soy was good.  Chicken and fish
have Vitamin A, a very important vitamin for hypos who have difficulty
converting it from beta carotene.  Also, I suspect that an iodine deficiency,
but not a severe enough one to cause a goiter a doctor would recognize ( my
mother had one, I remember but no one told her, thus instead of her thyroid
being treated she suffered for many years before coma and death)  but not
enough iodine for optimal functioning.  If you are eating ocean fish you are
a lot more likely to be getting enough iodine, and of course if eating cold
water ocean fish like salmon and tuna you get the Omega-3 which some say you
need for proper functioning of thyroid hormone.

It may very well be that you don't need it, or that it doesn't help you.  But
if you have thyroid symptoms, which include more ailments than I care to list
right now including hypertension, they it is likely you need Synthroid or
Armour, or Cytomel.


Skipper Beers

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