Well, you can get a stand along cd recorder.  This is what I was talking 
about.  The music industry stuck their nose in and had these made so you 
have to use special more expensive blanks with a code on them.  So, even 
if you're making your own recordings, they still get a royalty off of the 
special music blanks.  By the way, Walt, still have the Morantz you clued 
me in on.  This is a commercial unit that doesn't care what blanks you use 
and you can turn off the copy bit.  Not so with most home units.
73s
Butch Bussen
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