I guess they've changed. I know even sighted people say the menus on yaesus are horrible to work with, especially on HF radios, I think I'll stick with my kenwoods and icoms though until the attitude of the company changes but at least they're making some progress in the equipment and the manuals. for a while and even with my old FT-51 HT, the manual is beyond horrible, leaving steps out and stuff and setting the PL tones on that one with out sight is not going to happen, even the memories, adding things you never know where you'll end up programming anything with out the software unless you can see the display.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Colin McDonald 
  To: [log in to unmask] 
  Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:04 AM
  Subject: Re: 707 radio


  the method for programming tones, well not straight forward, is still
  accessable enough.
  You basically set one of the menu items to encoder or decoder, then on the
  next menu item you set what kind of tone you want, tone, ctcss, tone sql
  excetra excetra, and then another menu items allows you to set the frequency
  using the clicking VFO knob which again will beep at the roll over point.
  So, even for a sighted user setting tones are really quite complicated
  compared to most other amateur rigs.
   Remember, PL tone (or private line) is a motorola patented term so it
  doesn't apply to a radio unless it is a motorola.
  I think though, that unless you are in an area where input tones are
  changing constantly or if you travel a great into areas where tones are
  rampent, then the tone options aren't necesarily the most commonly used.
  Once you set up your memories with the tones you need, its pretty straight
  forward, and if you ever need to set the tones again, a quick RTFM will give
  you the right steps to set the tones.
  The manual i must mention for the ft2800M is very straight forward as well.

  73
  Colin, V A6BKX