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Hi John,

    I agree with you in principal that it is bad business to give out your 
banking information to a place like pay pal. The trouble is that even most 
banks have a place where you can check your account information online, make 
bank transfers and so forth. It's frustrating.

                    God bless,
                    Mark WZ0K
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: off topic Paypal question


>I know that, it's just the idea of even having my bank account there that I
> don't like. I know I don't need to use it, but it only takes 1 good hacker
> and everyone's info is in trouble. they can say they're 100% safe, just 
> like
> I can say when I set my burglar alarm when I leave the house, my house is
> 100% safe, and with the dog here too, but fact is, I'm sure if some one 
> does
> it right, they can still do a bit of damage. There's no such thing as 100%
> secure or safe. Especially not in the computer world. You can come close,
> but there's always a way and there are always people sitting around trying
> to find it.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ham Steve" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 4:11 PM
> Subject: Re: off topic Paypal question
>
>
>> John,
>>
>> I've been with Paypal since before EBay purchased them.  You do need a
>> bank
>> account with them, but you can select more funding and pay with a credit
>> card as long as the merchant you are doing business with accepts credit
>> cards.  Otherwise, you will need to have the funds automatically deducted
>> through Electronic Fund Transfer from your bank account.
>>
>> There are no fees as a buyer.  Merchants pay a fee, and an additional fee
>> if
>> they accept credit cards.
>>
>> Again, if you are smart, there should be no problems with PayPal and they
>> guarantee that in their agreement.
>> You don't need to set up a Paypal money account, although they do pay
>> interest on their accounts.
>>
>> Steve, K8SP
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 12:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: off topic Paypal question
>>
>>
>>> no minimum account balance that I know of, I guess they're safe. The 
>>> only
>>> thing I don't like about them is they require a bank account in order to
>>> use
>>> them after you spend so much with them through a credit card, it's
>>> different
>>> every time some one I know signs up, but for me it was after I spend a
>>> total
>>> of $2000 with them I'll have to register a bank account, my mother it 
>>> was
>>> like $500. I only have 1 bank account and there's no way in you know
>>> where,
>>> they're getting that info. They used to have a lot of problems in the
>>> past
>>> with closing out accounts and withholding the money in that account with
>>> them, and a few other things you can read about if you search the net,
>>> but
>>> since Ebay bought them out 2 or 3 years ago, I don't know of anyone 
>>> who's
>>> had any issues but I will never trust them or any other web site with
>>> bank
>>> account info.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Frederick" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 11:31 AM
>>> Subject: Re: off topic Paypal question
>>>
>>>
>>>> Three questions I have always had about pay pal is do you need a 
>>>> minimum
>>>> account balance with them? Also, what kind of fees do they charge? How
>>>> safe
>>>> are they to use?
>>>>
>>>>                    God bless,
>>>>                    Mark WZ0K
>>>> God loves you!
>>>> My personal prayer book.
>>>> Add your prayer or pray for others at the following link.
>>>> http://prayerbook.homewithgod.com/cgi-bin/prayerbook/multi.pl?131961113534708:24:0
>>>> My Ham Radio Lists
>>>> http://lists.topica.com/lists/funhamradio.
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/funhamradio-list
>>>> My personal website
>>>> http://funhamradio.bloki.com
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 5:45 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: off topic Paypal question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> sorry, I didn't see paypal mentioned in the subject line. they have an
>>>>> audio
>>>>> link you can listen to the audio to get those characters. I didn't see
>>>>> the
>>>>> subject line, I seldom watch those in the morning when I'm going
>>>>> through
>>>>> all
>>>>> my morning email.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 8:01 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: off topic Paypal question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> unfortunately, you don't. the only way that some times works, is if
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> print out the page and then scan it in to an OCR program and even 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>> 100% useful.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Harvey" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 2:21 AM
>>>>>> Subject: off topic Paypal question
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I know this has been discussed before, but how does a blind person
>>>>>>>type
>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>> the characters in the security box when it says to do so?  I have
>>>>>>> looked
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> them, but JFW apparently can't find them.  73.
>>>>>>> Harvey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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