not if you have kurzweil or open book.  you can read web-braille books in 
either one of those programs.
Jenifer gilley
"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble 
remembering how to fly."
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: web braille instructions.


> Okay, Brad,  I'm beginning to feel like Abraham bargaining with God for 
> Sodom and Gamorah.  One more question, if you can bear it.  If you don't 
> want to produce the book in braille, then why not just get the book from 
> book share or scan it or something where it is already in a readable 
> format for your screen reader?  Why bother with the braille at all?
> She asked, humbly, trembling with eyes lowered.
> kaka ka Kathy
>
> At 01:19 PM 5/22/2006, you wrote:
>>Kathy,
>>
>>If you don't convert a brf file to txt, it looks similar to my typing 
>>without using a spell checker, all coded garble. Converting it from 
>>braille format to text allows me to use the English language quite well 
>>which I've grown sort of fond of over the years *sarcastic little grin*
>>
>>Brad
>>
>>on 08:53 AM 5/22/2006, Kathy Du Bois said:
>>
>>Brad,
>>Then, if your screen reader is just  going to read it anyway, why bother 
>>having it converted to braille?  You know, I'm wondering if I'm really 
>>asking some stupid questions, but, they say, the only stupid question is 
>>the one you don't ask, so, I'm asking because I can't seem to win either 
>>way.  GRIN!
>>Kathy
>>
>>
>>
>>At 11:03 PM 5/21/2006, you wrote:
>>Kathy,
>>
>>I download the brf file, Use a program called WinTrans to convert it to a 
>>txt file where the computer reads it out just like you are reading now.
>>
>>Brad
>>on 06:59 PM 5/21/2006, Kathy Du Bois said:
>>
>>Brad,
>>If its braille, how do you read it?  Do you have a braille display?  I 
>>only have a monitor, but I do have a braille blazer an I wouldn't even 
>>want to think of having that thing print out a book.  It is so noisy.  We 
>>always say, "mom's makin' pop corn," when it runs.  It drives me nuts.
>>Kathy
>>Kathy
>>
>>
>>At 04:03 PM 5/21/2006, you wrote:
>>Nope. Just view them on my computer and I convert it to text using 
>>WinTrans. A free program.
>>
>>Brad
>>
>>
>>on 06:58 AM 5/20/2006, Kathy Du Bois said:
>>
>>Hey, Question to those of you who use web braille,
>>Do you use a braille blazer to print out what you down load, or some other 
>>device?
>>Kathy
>>
>>At 07:21 PM 5/19/2006, you wrote:
>>Thanks Jen. I'll do that. I figured there was a way... just got to know 
>>the right folks *smile*.
>>
>>Brad
>>
>>
>>on 09:51 AM 5/19/2006, Jenifer Gilley said:
>>
>>Hi all.  you can save the web braille file without going through all of 
>>the translating and stuff.  Do the following.  **following excerpted from 
>>faq**
>>
>>Q1. Is there an easy way to download Web-Braille (.brf) files with 
>>Internet Explorer?
>>
>>A1. If your Internet Explorer opens .brf files and you would prefer to 
>>have the option of downloading these files without opening them first, one 
>>way to
>>do this is to create a registered file type for .brf file extensions.
>>
>>For all versions of Windows:
>>List of 13 items (contains 3 nested lists)
>>. 1. Open My Computer or Windows Explorer.
>>. 2. Do an alt-v (Windows 95 and 98) to open the View menu or an alt-t 
>>(Windows ME, 2000, and XP) to open the Tools menu.
>>. 3. Select "options" or "folder options".
>>. 4. You will be presented with a tabbed dialog box. Press the tab key 
>>until you reach the tab controls and right arrow twice to reach the "file 
>>types"
>>tab.
>>. 5. Tab until you reach "new..." or "new type..." and press enter.
>>
>>For Windows 95 and 98:
>>. 6. Tab through the fields and fill in the following:
>>List of 3 items nesting level 1
>>. A. Description of type: Here you can enter whatever you like, these are 
>>the words you will see on the file types list. One possibility is: 
>>"formatted
>>braille file".
>>. B. Associated Extension: brf
>>. c. Content Type: application
>>list end nesting level 1
>>
>>For Windows Me, 2000 and XP:
>>. 6. Tab through the fields and fill in the following:
>>List of 3 items nesting level 1
>>. a. For "file extension" type "brf".
>>. B. tab to "advanced" and press enter. You will be in the "file type 
>>associations" combo box.
>>. C. Start typing the word "application" fairly quickly and when you reach 
>>appl, you should land on it. Tab to ok and press enter. Tab to close and 
>>press
>>enter.
>>list end nesting level 1
>>
>>For all versions of Windows:
>>Once you have created a file type for .brf files, if you want to be able 
>>to view the file online, you will need to specify an action. If you don't 
>>wish
>>to specify an action at this time, tab to "close" and press enter.
>>
>>For Windows 95 and 98:
>>. 7. Keep tabbing until you reach "action" and then tab once more to 
>>"new...".
>>
>>For Windows ME, 2000, and XP:
>>. 7. Tab until you reach the registered files type listview and be sure 
>>the brf file type is highloighted.
>>
>>For Windows ME and 2000:
>>. 8. Tab until you reach "Advanced" and press enter. Then tab until you 
>>reach "action" and then tab once more to "new...".
>>
>>For all versions of Windows, except XP:
>>. 9. Press enter on "new" and fill in the following two fields:
>>List of 3 items nesting level 1
>>. A. Action: open
>>. B. Application to perform action: (here you can put in any editor that 
>>you would like to use. If you don't know what to put in, try: "C:\program 
>>files\accessories\wordpad.exe"
>>"%1" Be sure to use the quotes, they are important.
>>
>>For Windows XP
>>. 9. Tab until you reach "Change..." and press enter. You will be in a 
>>treeview of "Programs". Press the first letter of the program you want, 
>>such as "n"
>>for "Notepad" or "w" for "Wordpad".
>>list end nesting level 1
>>. 10. Tab to ok and press enter.
>>. 11. Tab to close and press enter. You are back in the options dialog 
>>box.
>>list end
>>
>>Now when you select a .brf file while in Internet Explorer, you will be 
>>prompted to either "save this file to disk" or "open this file in its 
>>current location".
>>You can also designate the directory where you would like the file saved.
>>
>>
>>hope this helps.
>>Jenifer gilley
>>"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble 
>>remembering how to fly."
>>Author unknown
>>AIM: jenibear1998
>>msn
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