Hi.

Actually, I'd like to see the NFB bring a lawsuit against Symantec like 
they did to AOL a few years ago.  Symantec, which has an attitude very 
similar to our favorite radio company, Yaesu, has been asking for it for a 
while.

73, de Lou K2LKK



At 11:36 AM 9/24/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>     Harvey and all:
>
>I don't know if it'd do any good, but maybe  someone on the list would like
>to forward this info onto the tech people at Freedom Scientific, so that
>they could start designing a fix for the problem for the next major Jaws
>upgrade.
>
>In fact, now that I think of it, isn't it about time for Jaws 8.0 to come
>out?
>
>I thought the new upgrades came out in September, or at least sometime in
>the Fall of each year.
>
>Anyway, this is just a thought.
>
>73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Harvey" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:24 AM
>Subject: Fw: Heads up: NortonAntivirus/Norton Internet Security 2007
>incompatib...
>
>
> > Keep in mind that this is one person's opinion, but I thought maybe people
> > should see this who are thinking of buying Norton 2007.  73.
> > Harvey Heagy (N.5.H.A.U.)
> >
> >
> > Hello, As a long time user of Symantec products, I am saddened to inform
> > everyone that the new Norton 2007 products are no longer compatible with
> > Jaws. After purchasing Norton Internet Security 2007, and performing
> > extensive testing on it, I've determined the following.
> > * A blind person is unable to activate the product without sighted
> > assistance. if Jaws is loaded, the Activation program immediately quits,
> > rather than displaying its dialogs. This happens during the setup process,
> > and causes your installation to be left in an unusable state. Fixing this
> > requires sighted assistance to get through the activation process, at
>which
> > time the product (mostly) repairs itself.
> > * Once the product is installed, configuration is exceedingly difficult.
>The
> > software is completely inaccessible from the keyboard, Unlike it previous
> > versions the interface does not appear to take advantage of the Windows
> > built in html rendering facilities, instead using its own rendering
>method.
> > All configuration must be done with the jaws cursor, and Jaws's ability to
> > see things like buttons is eratic at best. (admittedly, it may be possible
> > to improve this via the use of a tool like Hotspot clicker, but getting to
>a
> > state where you could would require heavy sighted intevention, and its
> > questionable as to whether it would be worth it.) * When the product tries
> > to alert with Jaws loaded (at least on my machine), it instead blue
>screens
> > and reboots. I tested this with the standard antivirus test. Eicar?
> > (not sure on the spelling), which is a harmless .com file intended to do
> > nothing but trigger antivirus products. (all products use this as a
> > standard, "hello world" test.)
> >
> > The combination of the three above points leads me to believe that ongoing
> > persistance with this product would prove fruitless.
> > (Note: while I did not perform testing with Window Eyes, it has been my
> > experience in the past that WE has been less effective at accessing the
> > Norton interfaces when they were accessible, so I have no reason to
>believe,
> > and hence no inclination to try it, that the situation with 2007 would be
> > any better, in fact, I suspect it would be dramaticly worse).
> >
> > This message is a heads up to advise others not to buy the Norton
> > 2007 products. if you are a Norton user, stick with 2006, as that is, at
> > least, accessible. If not, then it looks like its now time to find a new
> > package.
> >

Louis Kim Kline
A.R.S. K2LKK
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