Phil,

Thanks for sharing about your daughter.  I will tell you sometime of some 
demonic things that happened to me when I was in my marriage and had my 
stepson living in our house.  I will tell you this though.  I owe the I'RS a 
considerable amount of money, and the devil took my home from me thanks to 
this boy, and so you are not alone.  And yes, I can tell you that they will 
not give up drugs usually if they are smoking the cigarettes.  It's amazing, 
isn't it that God just can't break through some people's walls?  Well, He 
could, but since we have a free choice He will not do so.  I'm glad she 
can't have the boys.  I cry whenever I think of some people's children since 
I could not have any, but at least I know that no matter what, I can pray 
for those children who I hear of being abused and uncared for because of 
people's lack of responsibility.
For unto us a child is born.  Unto us a son is given.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Amy Gordon" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: Gretchen Moving Out


> Phil,
>    I will continue praying for her and that she makes the right decisions
> in her life and that she will realize there are more important things than
> drugs.
>
> Amy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:26 PM
> Subject: Gretchen Moving Out
>
>
>> As most of you recall, I had a talk with my daughter before Christmas.  I
>> told her then I was giving her to the end of December to decide how she
>> wanted to live.  If she stayed in our home, she had certain rules to
> follow.
>> She has broken all the rules we had that she agreed to about four months
>> ago.  We have been getting reports from others who have seen Gretchen in
>> various places and places she should not have been.  She likewise has 
>> been
>> meeting up with a lot of her old drug friends.  Plus, she has been 
>> getting
>> stoned and claiming, when she had to miss work the next day so she could
>> sleep, that she had the stomach flue.  Anyhow, she claims she will be
> moving
>> into an apartment within a block of our house, supposedly, next Friday.
>> Sandy and I finally wondered, and we aren't the only ones who think this,
>> that we might be in Gretchen's way, that is, of making a decision on her
> own
>> which way she is going to live.  this way, she'll have to decide on her
> own.
>> She now will have restrictions as far as seeing her children are
> concerned.
>> By that I mean, she won't be allowed to keep either of her boys with her
> at
>> her apartment for any reason because she already has taken them to 
>> places,
>> and had them around people, with criminal records and who are druggies,
> and
>> the Lord only knows what else they are, in the last few weeks.  Just a
> week
>> ago, she has been over at the neighbors and they are big time dopers.
>> Gretchen still smokes cigarettes and although most Christians don't think
>> that's a big deal, anyone we have spoken with in drug rehab, Christian
> drug
>> rehab I mean to say, says if they won't give up the cigarettes, they will
>> almost always go back to the drugs.  My friend Keith, who builds houses,
> has
>> found that one fact to be true based upon many years of hiring former
>> druggies and x cons.  Gretchen told her brother that she used to spend 
>> 250
>> dollars a month on smokes before she went into the drug rehab Christian
>> home.  Anyhow, I haven't mentioned everything because, frankly, it is 
>> just
>> another verse of a very old worn out song.  Remind me to tell you some 
>> day
>> of the demonic activities around our home that seem to be more prevalent
>> when Gretchen is around.  One more thing, I found out that Gretchen is
>> telling everybody that we called her today and said she had to be out by
>> tomorrow.  We told her Wednesday to be out by Friday.  Plus, I told her
> two
>> weeks before Christmas that she had to the end of December to make up her
>> mind or I would make the decision myself.  Then a week or so ago, I
> reminded
>> her of the same thing.  Funny how we always want to blame somebody else
> for
>> things.
>>
>> Phil.
>