Thanks for the info John. I am not all that crazy about echolink. Kind of like net2phone or email in a way. I got it working on 1 of my computers and have not fooled with i9t since. It isn't like dx on the ham radio and that is what I am really after. You know being in the right place at the right time and dealing with a chalenge. Echolink is a way to talk to people but there isn't a chalenge there.