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I wondered why one was Mary's and the other's Joeseph's. Thanks for the 
explanation.

Brad


At 11:39 AM 1/21/2006 -0800, you wrote:
>This is because Mathew was Jewish and Luke was Greek.  The Greeks held women
>in higher esteem than did the Jews.  Mathew Mark and Luke are called the
>synoptic Gospels.  Mark was written first, and is the shortest, Mathew was
>written next then Luke was written.  We must remember also all the gospels
>were written a while after Jesus' ascension as the apostles felt Jesus would
>come within their lifetimes therefore there would be no need to write an
>account of his life.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: MV <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:48 PM
>Subject: Re: Unfair treatment in life
>
>
> > Lynn, which might be helpful as well is there are two accounts of Jesus'
> > geneology. One in Matthew and one in Luke. One is actually the lineage of
> > Joeseph, the Lord's saragot father I guess you'd say, the other is the
> > lineage of Mary although it does refer to Joseph, and if you compare the
> > two they are not the same.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
> > At 09:32 PM 1/19/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Thanks, Brad.  This might be what I needed after the long letter I just
> > >wrote and posted here.  I'm keeping this, especially since my pastor was
> > >asking about genealogy of Jesus last Sunday and I couldn't remember them
> > >all.
> > >For unto us a child is born.  Unto us a son is given.
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 5:56 PM
> > >Subject: Unfair treatment in life
> > >
> > >
> > > > Life just doesn't seem fair at times does it?  Sometimes we wonder why
> > > > things happen the way they do, and for the life of us we can't see why
> > > > things played out as they did. In fact in our lifetime we may not see
> > > > why,  but if we lived long enough we might  see why things occurred
>the
> > > > way
> > > > they did. For instance I was reading this morning of a guy who was
>tricked
> > > > by his future father-in-law big time, it cost him years of his life in
> > > > labor and it just wasn't a good deal at all. I might as well tell it
>quick
> > > > here so you get my point. This young man really liked this beautiful
>girl
> > > > and was planning on  asking for her hand in marriage. The girl's dad
>was a
> > > > bit reluctant at first but made him a deal that  if this young man
>were to
> > > > hang around for several years and work for him on his farm, you know
>to
> > > > kind of prove himself out I suppose, then after a number of years he
>could
> > > > marry his daughter. So this young man did just that, I mean worked
>hard,
> > > > got to know the family and all, and at the end of the arranged time,
>this
> > > > young man was really getting excited about finally marrying this
>beautiful
> > > > woman he dreamt about and was working so hard for her hand for several
> > > > years, he grew even more in love with her. Well? The big day was here,
>he
> > > > was going to marry her. So the old man through this big party  one
>night
> > > > for his future son-in-law, and well, they had no electricity there and
>so
> > > > the father-in-law gave his daughter over to this young man for the,
>umm,
> > > > consumation of their love let's say, and in the morning this young man
> > > > found out he'd been  tricked and given the sister of the woman he
>loved.
> > > > He
> > > > married the wrong girl!! The thing is, it was the old man's idea! Talk
> > > > about being deceived, mistreated and used. So the young man confronted
>the
> > > > old man, and they struck another deal the same as the first one, where
> > > > he'd
> > > > have to work around the place for another several years, and then he
>could
> > > > marry  the woman of his dreams, which he finally did, but what a
>trickery,
> > > > what an injustice huh? Oh, yeah, the part that is interesting if you
>look
> > > > way beyond this young man's life? Generations and generations after
>his
> > > > death, you can see that his first wife? The one he was tricked into
> > > > marrying?  Provided  the fulfillment of prophecy of Jesus' birth. The
> > > > young
> > > > man was Jacob, the first wife was Leah who has lineage through David
>to
> > > > Jesus, and the second wife, the beautiful one  is Rachel, who has no
> > > > lineage to Jesus. So without if Jacob married Rachel and not Leah, the
> > > > lineage would have been messed up. Below is some scripture to show
>this.
> > > > Interesting isn't it? So although we may not understand why things
>occur,
> > > > neither did Jacob I bet, but God had it under control I guess. I also
> > > > found
> > > > it interesting that Leah's son Judah, was the one who convinced his
> > > > brothers and step brothers not to kill Joseph but sell him off to
> > > > slavery.
> > > > Also
> > > > Gen 29:16-27
> > > > 16 Now Laban had two daughters; the name of the older was Leah, and
>the
> > > > name of the younger was Rachel.
> > > > 17 And Leah's eyes were weak, but Rachel was beautiful of form and
>face.
> > > > 18 Now Jacob loved Rachel, so he said, "I will serve you seven years
>for
> > > > your younger daughter Rachel."
> > > > 19 Laban said, "It is better that I give her to you than to give her
>to
> > > > another man; stay with me."
> > > > 20 So Jacob served seven years for Rachel and they seemed to him but a
>few
> > > > days because of his love for her.
> > > > 21 Then Jacob said to Laban, "Give me my wife, for my time is
>completed,
> > > > that I may go in to her."
> > > > 22 Laban gathered all the men of the place and made a feast.
> > > > 23 Now in the evening he took his daughter Leah, and brought her to
>him;
> > > > and Jacob went in to her.
> > > > 24 Laban also gave his maid Zilpah to his daughter Leah as a maid.
> > > > 25 So it came about in the morning that, behold, it was Leah! And he
>said
> > > > to Laban, "What is this you have done to me? Was it not for Rachel
>that I
> > > > served with you? Why then have you deceived me?"
> > > > 26 But Laban said, "It is not the practice in our place to marry off
>the
> > > > younger before the firstborn.
> > > > 27 "Complete the week of this one, and we will give you the other also
>for
> > > > the service which you shall serve with me for another seven years."
> > > > Gen 29:30-35
> > > > 30 So Jacob went in to Rachel also, and indeed he loved Rachel more
>than
> > > > Leah, and he served with Laban for another seven years.
> > > >
> > > > Genesis 29:35
> > > > 31 Now the LORD saw that Leah was unloved, and He opened her womb, but
> > > > Rachel was barren.
> > > > 32 Leah conceived and bore a son and named him Reuben, for she said,
> > > > "Because the LORD has seen my affliction; surely now my husband will
>love
> > > > me."
> > > > 33 Then she conceived again and bore a son and said, "Because the LORD
>has
> > > > heard that I am unloved, He has therefore given me this son also." So
>she
> > > > named him Simeon.
> > > > 34 She conceived again and bore a son and said, "Now this time my
>husband
> > > > will become attached to me, because I have borne him three sons."
> > > > Therefore
> > > > he was named Levi.
> > > > 35 And she conceived again and bore a son and said, "This time I will
> > > > praise the LORD." Therefore she named him Judah. Then she stoped
>bearing.
> > > >
> > > > Matthew 1:1-16
> > > > 1 The record of the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah, the son of David,
>the
> > > > son of Abraham:
> > > > 2 Abraham was the father of Isaac, Isaac the father of Jacob, and
>Jacob
> > > > the
> > > > father of Judah and his brothers.
> > > > 3 Judah was the father of Perez and Zerah by Tamar, Perez was the
>father
> > > > of
> > > > Hezron, and Hezron the father of Ram.
> > > > 4 Ram was the father of Amminadab, Amminadab the father of Nahshon,
>and
> > > > Nahshon the father of Salmon.
> > > > 5 Salmon was the father of Boaz by Rahab, Boaz was the father of Obed
>by
> > > > Ruth, and Obed the father of Jesse.
> > > > 6 Jesse was the father of David the king.
> > > > David was the father of Solomon by Bathsheba who had been the wife of
> > > > Uriah.
> > > > 7 Solomon was the father of Rehoboam, Rehoboam the father of Abijah,
>and
> > > > Abijah the father of Asa.
> > > > 8 Asa was the father of Jehoshaphat, Jehoshaphat the father of Joram,
>and
> > > > Joram the father of Uzziah.
> > > > 9 Uzziah was the father of Jotham, Jotham the father of Ahaz, and Ahaz
>the
> > > > father of Hezekiah.
> > > > 10 Hezekiah was the father of Manasseh, Manasseh the father of Amon,
>and
> > > > Amon the father of Josiah.
> > > > 11 Josiah became the father of Jeconiah and his brothers, at the time
>of
> > > > the deportation to Babylon.
> > > > 12 After the deportation to Babylon: Jeconiah became the father of
> > > > Shealtiel, and Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel.
> > > > 13 Zerubbabel was the father of Abihud, Abihud the father of Eliakim,
>and
> > > > Eliakim the father of Azor.
> > > > 14 Azor was the father of Zadok, Zadok the father of Achim, and Achim
>the
> > > > father of Eliud.
> > > > 15 Eliud was the father of Eleazar, Eleazar the father of Matthan, and
> > > > Matthan the father of Jacob.
> > > > 16 Jacob was the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, by whom Jesus
>was
> > > > born, who is called the Messiah.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Brad
> > > >
> > > >   God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, not his
>extra
> > > >
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >    Make a life, make a living, make a difference.

Brad

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