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Lyn Cooper <[log in to unmask]>
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The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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This is really something and shows the awesomeness of our Lord.  Wow!  This 
blind man survived and I know that God did it to show His glory and as a 
sign to us that He sees all we do.  Hallelujah.
For unto us a child is born.  Unto us a son is given.

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: for God's Glory a devotion that caused my question...


> Children do suffer the consequences of a parent's sin.  Look at all the
> crack babies and the babies with aids.  It may not be nice to think of but
> it is true never the less.  Our entire family does suffer when one of us
> sins in some way.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Karen Carter <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: for God's Glory a devotion that caused my question...
>
>
>> No.  Man is responsible for his own sin.  If we were blind for someone
> elses sin everyone in the world would be handicapped in someway.  There is 
> a
> verse that says all man are responsible for his own sin.  I know in the 
> old
> testimentbefore Jesus there were generational curses but Jesus wiped that
> all away.  I know there are those of you who know where the appropriate
> verses are.  We were born early due to the consiquences of our mothers
> drinking and such but not because of sin.  I know drinking is a sin but 
> God
> would not punish us for it.
>>
>> --
>> I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out
> there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out 
> there
> is
>>
>> IN GOD WE TRUST
>> Karen Carter  '74
>> -KC- Ministries
>>
>>
>>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> > Perhaps we were just predestined to be blind ha ha.  Seriously, though,
>> > don't you thing blindness can be just a consequence of a previous 
>> > action
> or
>> > condition of our parents?  My mother was malnourished as a child 
>> > because
> my
>> > grandparents were very poor.  She also smoked and drank while she
> carried
>> > me.  She never had any prenatal care till I threatened to get out of
> there
>> > altogether by miscarrying.  Then she went up to Cleveland where there
> were
>> > doctors who could help her.  They did their best to keep me from coming
> to
>> > soon but I did at 26 weeks along.  My mother told me the doctor gave 
>> > her
>> > medication to try to keep me in the womb even on Sundays at his office.
> My
>> > being born prematurely is what caused my blindness.  This is a mere
>> > consequence of all the hardships my mother had to endure and of the 
>> > care
> she
>> > took of herself prior to my being born.  Many times people don't manage
>> > properly their diabetes or something which leads to consequences. 
>> > Don't
> you
>> > think this could be true?
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: MV <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:25 AM
>> > Subject: Re: for God's Glory a devotion that caused my question...
>> >
>> >
>> > > Kathy,
>> > >
>> > > You wrote...
>> > > "Why is it easier to believe that God can cure a back ache or a head
> ache
>> > > that can't be seen and is totally subjective and not my eyes, which
> would
>> > > actually require physical reconstruction?"
>> > >
>> > > Bingo sister! It is curious too why, and perhaps it is me only, that
> we
>> > > hear of folks being healed of one leg longer than the other and not
> one
>> > > like us with an obvious life changing ailment??? Why is that or is it
> just
>> > > me? Also you are right in saying many walk away looking at our's or
>> > other's
>> > > situations "Gee I'm thankful I'm not in that situation". I did even
> see
>> > > some of that in the devotion Rhonda posted. It is sooooo easy for
> people
>> > to
>> > > say "God has blessed you with the ability to handle your situation,
>> > > praise  and glory to him who gave you patience and look all you
> learned
>> > > from this situation", and then they hop in their car and drive
>> > > home.  Granted I bet we do the same with those we feel have harder
> cards
>> > to
>> > > play in life. It is a different perspective when   someone with an
>> > > affliction gives glory for the illness, but to me, and I reluctantly
> say
>> > > anything here as I said I don't want to pull at anyone's beliefs that
>> > > enable them to cope, but I can't see  glory in that either.  Perhaps
> I'm
>> > > not spiritually mature to that point yet, maybe that's it. I do
> however
>> > see
>> > > a gigantic  opportunity for people to see God's glory in my healing. 
>> > > I
>> > know
>> > > many blind vendors here in WI, plus having been blind for sometime
> now,
>> > > gotten to know many blind folks, and of course we become pegged as 
>> > > the
>> > > blind guy who does this or does that by sighted folks, and then of
> course
>> > > our relatives, think of that impact. I wonder what they'd do or say 
>> > > or
>> > > wonder if they saw me driving next week, looking them square in the
> eye,
>> > > waving and smiling hahaha? Now there's opportunity for glory. And you
> know
>> > > what? Isn't that what Jesus meant and demonstrated with the blind guy
> when
>> > > the disciples asked him who sinned this man or his parents? And Jesus
> said
>> > > neither but for the glory of God, then he spit in mud, swiped his 
>> > > eyes
> and
>> > > said wash off dude and you'll be flashing them baby blues. And didn't
> the
>> > > blind man give credit to Jesus? Who in turn gave credit to the
>> > > Father?  Perhaps I am a bit *snapping fingers* what's the word I'm
> looking
>> > > for... rebellious? Brash? No no, I don't know the word, upfront
>> > > maybe???  anyway it is almost  rather than to say God wills me this
> way
>> > and
>> > > get's glory out of it,  I  can't help  not hiding my thoughts in
> saying
>> > "OK
>> > > God. Point blank here, no more games, no more fooling around with 
>> > > this
>> > > thing. Do you heal or don't you? And if so, why not me so I can fix
> what
>> > is
>> > > out of your will and move on with the life you given me in a way I 
>> > > was
>> > > originally equipped to do! If you don't then I know the score and 
>> > > I'll
>> > fall
>> > > in place and accept that."  I don't mean that disrespectfully, but I
> also
>> > > can't feel one way and hide it from him. That's just foolishness.
>> > >
>> > > Brad
> 

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