When did e-church get started and how were the first members? Just interested in how things come about.
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I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is
IN GOD WE TRUST
Karen Carter '74
-KC- Ministries
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From: Vinny Samarco <[log in to unmask]>
> Cathy,
> I think after all these years of reading your posts, I wouldn't mix you up
> with anyone. Why, you are the forthright, honest caring Christian with the
> soap opera life story. Maybe, since I do not own a tv, maybe soap opera is
> the wrong word. Anyway, we know it's pure nonfiction.
> I also have to say you are the only Kathy du bois I have ever met, neither
> have I ever met a Greg, Matthew, Christopher, or Elizabeth Du bois.
> I'm glad our father knows more than our names.
> My wife found one of those name books that the library was giving away,
> recently..
> One of the nutty stories in the book was that a psome crazy parents gave
> their six children the same name. They all were trained to respond to their
> numbers--1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
> Can you believe that.?
> Vinny
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 3:02 PM
> Subject: a great story of mix ups
>
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> > A story of mix ups
> >
> > Okay everybody, mix-ups don't just happen in hospitals. While Greg
> > and I lived in Menominee Michigan, we were involved in some of the
> > most confusing mix-ups that I ever hope to go through. Here are the
> > highlights.
> > In 1984, we moved to Menominee where I had been hired to be a teacher
> > for the intermediate school district, working with the mentally
> > impaired. As soon as we arrived in the community, we began church
> > shopping and settled on a church in the area that we really
> > liked. We jumped in with both feet, because that's just kind of the
> > way we are, so we became known pretty quickly by the pastor and the
> > congregation. Unfortunately, we have never been able to receive the
> > local paper. We just always felt that other things were more
> > important to pay for and all we usually do with the paper is go
> > through the comics and do the crossword puzzle. It just isn't worth
> > the subscription cost. Anyway, imagine our surprise about a month
> > after our involvement in the church when the pastor pulled us aside
> > and asked us if the congregation could expect a lot of trouble from
> > us. We had no clue what he was talking about, so he showed us the
> > article in the paper.
> > Evidently, a man named, Greg Du Bois, (unfortunately for us no
> > address was given), was in the paper for some funny dealings in the
> > tree industry. I believe that it was in the court reports and his
> > brother was involved as well. We assured him that it wasn't us and
> > hoped that it was the end of the matter, but it was just the beginning.
> > While I was pregnant with Matthew, another lady began attending the
> > same church with a five-year-old son. Her name was Kathy Du Bois and
> > her son's name was Christopher. She joined the choir and we got to
> > know each other some. Her husband's name was Glen, so we didn't
> > think much of it as far as being another matter of confusion. By the
> > way, Glen did not attend church so now; it was just to two Kathy's
> > who was a confusing matter.
> > About a year later, I gave birth to a Christopher of my own. I
> > didn't think anything of giving him that name because we and the
> > other Kathy didn't associate much. Anyway, We had Chris in Greenbay
> > and we chose to leave within twelve hours of his birth so they were
> > not able to administer his PKU test. A baby needs to be more than
> > three days old for this test to be accurate. We took our Christopher
> > to our local hospital when he was around five days old to have the
> > PKU test administered and, instead of beginning a new file on our
> > Christopher, they pulled up this other Christopher's file and said,
> > "Oh yes, didn't he fall out of a tree a few days ago and break his
> > arm?" Unfortunately, Chris had not fallen out of a tree. He had
> > fallen out of me and nothing was broken, but we learned that we were
> > both using the same pediatrician.
> > Well, life went on and after a while, there was news of a break in at
> > a local drug store by, a Du Bois. We were visited by the
> > police. They wanted us to tell us about Greg's brother Glen. What a
> > mess.
> > Then, the police showed up at our door a few months later. They were
> > really looking for my Greg this time because a student loan from way
> > back in his own drug days, before he became a Christian had not been
> > paid and the government was there to collect. We didn't know
> > anything about this bill because they had been sending collection
> > notices to Menominee Mississippi, but that didn't seem to help us
> > much. Fortunately, the bill was only about $300 and how that got
> > paid off is another miraculous story that I won't bother to take a
> > detour to tell here, but it is pretty good, none the less. Anyway,
> > the police were at my door and Greg was on the beach, about four
> > blocks away, with Matthew, who was, I think two, at the time, so I
> > really panicked because I had no idea what they wanted.
> > Eventually, we got all the mess straightened around and we thought
> > that life was good until I received a call one day from a financial
> > planner congratulating me on the birth of my twins. I gasped and
> > stuttered. Then, the man on the other end said, "Aren't you Kathy Du
> > Bois?"
> > I replied that I was. "And isn't your husband Greg?"
> > I confirmed that he was, but I assured him that I hadn't had twins
> > lately and I thought that I should know. As we talked, I learned
> > that, evidently, the person who had been involved in the illegal
> > dealings at the beginning of this missive had married a girl named
> > Kathy and they had been blessed with twins. All I could say over and
> > over was "Thank you Lord It's not me." Unfortunately, now, there
> > were at least Three Kathy Du Bois in Menominee county and all of us
> > had kids and some of us were shady characters.
> > We thought that our problems were over when we finally left Menominee
> > county and moved to Grand Rapids so that Greg could finish up his
> > under Graduate work. Imagine our surprise about a month after moving
> > when we received a letter from a lawyer assuring us that the suit
> > against Greg's mother would probably succeed and we could look
> > forward to about $75,000 in profit from the proceedings. I think
> > that a simple phone call straightened that one up, but I can't
> > remember for sure right now.
> > When we moved to Grand Rapids, I was pregnant with Elizabeth who was
> > born on February 8. We were so happy to have a daughter, but,
> > unfortunately, attending our church at the same time were two other
> > ladies who gave birth within the ten days before Liz was born. Both
> > children were girls, the first girl in their family and each had two
> > older brothers, just like Elizabeth. To make matters worse, the
> > first girl was named Elisa and the other girl was Emily. We were
> > often getting called out of church for the wrong baby so, to really
> > have fun with the mess, we decided to have all three girls dedicated
> > on the same day with all the brothers in tow just to create a
> > scene. The worst part is when the pastor reached to take our sweet
> > daughter, who was about two months old at the time, into his arms and
> > she grabbed his mike and decided to begin screaming. She hadn't
> > wanted to be taken away from her mother, I guess. Anyway, she's the
> > only child I know of whom had to be removed from her own dedication
> > because no one else could hear anything!
> > Nothing more really happened after that until we moved to
> > Maine. About a year after we moved hear, I received a call from a
> > lady telling me that her name was Kathy Du Bois and, she was afraid
> > that our prescriptions had been mixed up because we both use the same
> > pharmacy. Fortunately, I don't take any drugs, so I was able to put
> > her mind at ease. We had probably had a prescription filled for
> > antibiotics for one of the kids or something. Anyway, she felt that
> > there was a mix up. I believe that her son was a Christopher too,
> > if I'm not mistaken.
> > And, if I had been writing this a month ago, I probably would have
> > thought that that was the end of the story, but thanks to my 9 year
> > old, Caleb, we've learned of even another Kathy dubois since
> > then. Caleb wanted to do the shopping. He was given the list and
> > given very strict instructions to find us after he had collected
> > things and that he was not to go through the check out line without
> > us. Imagine our surprise, as Greg and I were just strolling around
> > and wasting time while Caleb was trying to be a big boy, when we
> > heard our names announced over the loud speaker and ordered to report
> > to the front of the store immediately. It sounded like we were in
> > trouble. I stayed in one place, thinking that Caleb might be
> > lost. Our thought was that one of us should stay put and visible so
> > that Caleb could find us easily. It just made sense that I got to be
> > the lucky one to stay put. Oh goody! Well, Greg whisked passed the
> > deli section toward the front just in time to over here a
> > conversation between two ladies. The one was saying, "Well they
> > said, Kathy Du Bois should report to the front of the store." The
> > other woman, left the counter, rather confused, and mumbling, 'I
> > wonder why." Yes folks, another Kathy Du Bois had been flushed out
> > of hiding!
> > OH, before I leave this point, I suppose you are wondering why we
> > were paged? Well, our son did not follow instructions and had
> > wracked up a bill that had to be paid for. Everyone had to patiently
> > wait behind this 9-year-old who had no money while is, seemingly
> > errant parents were out bumming. Have you ever wanted to crawl in a
> > whole? The whole line of customers was full of praise for how well
> > Caleb handled the situation and how adult he was. But, they had
> > nothing but daggers for Greg for making them wait. When I found out
> > what really happened, I have to admit that I was glad to be the
> > parent who was elected to stay put. No one ever
> > knew! Haha! Brother. I guess that we'll never win. Anyway, it all
> > ended up okay.
> > Now, are all of you confused? I had thought all along that Jones and
> > Smith were the most common names. I just find myself praising my
> > heavenly Father that He knows who I am, no matter what! And that,
> > while man may be confused, He will never be.
> > Kathy
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> > <font size=3D4>A story of mix ups<br><br>
> > Okay everybody, mix-ups don=92t just happen in hospitals. While Greg
> > and I lived in Menominee Michigan, we were involved in some of the most
> > confusing mix-ups that I ever hope to go through. Here are the
> > highlights.<br>
> > In 1984, we moved to Menominee where I had been hired to be a teacher for
> > the intermediate school district, working with the mentally
> > impaired. As soon as we arrived in the community, we began church
> > shopping and settled on a church in the area that we really liked.
> > We jumped in with both feet, because that=92s just kind of the way we are,
> > so we became known pretty quickly by the pastor and the
> > congregation. Unfortunately, we have never been able to receive the
> > local paper. We just always felt that other things were more
> > important to pay for and all we usually do with the paper is go through
> > the comics and do the crossword puzzle. It just isn=92t worth the
> > subscription cost. Anyway, imagine our surprise about a month after
> > our involvement in the church when the pastor pulled us aside and asked
> > us if the congregation could expect a lot of trouble from us. We
> > had no clue what he was talking about, so he showed us the article in the
> > paper.<br>
> > Evidently, a man named, Greg Du Bois, (unfortunately for us no address
> > was given), was in the paper for some funny dealings in the tree
> > industry. I believe that it was in the court reports and his
> > brother was involved as well. We assured him that it wasn=92t us and
> > hoped that it was the end of the matter, but it was just the
> > beginning.<br>
> > While I was pregnant with Matthew, another lady began attending the same
> > church with a five-year-old son. Her name was Kathy Du Bois and her
> > son=92s name was Christopher. She joined the choir and we got to
> > know
> > each other some. Her husband=92s name was Glen, so we didn=92t think
> > much of it as far as being another matter of confusion. By the way,
> > Glen did not attend church so now; it was just to two Kathy=92s who was a
> > confusing matter. <br>
> > About a year later, I gave birth to a Christopher of my own. I
> > didn=92t think anything of giving him that name because we and the other
> > Kathy didn=92t associate much. Anyway, We had Chris in Greenbay and
> > we chose to leave within twelve hours of his birth so they were not able
> > to administer his PKU test. A baby needs to be more than three days
> > old for this test to be accurate. We took our Christopher to our
> > local hospital when he was around five days old to have the PKU test
> > administered and, instead of beginning a new file on our Christopher,
> > they pulled up this other Christopher=92s file and said, =93Oh yes,
> > didn=92t=
> > he
> > fall out of a tree a few days ago and break his arm?=94
> > Unfortunately, Chris had not fallen out of a tree. He had fallen
> > out of me and nothing was broken, but we learned that we were both using
> > the same pediatrician. <br>
> > Well, life went on and after a while, there was news of a break in at a
> > local drug store by, a Du Bois. We were visited by the
> > police. They wanted us to tell us about Greg=92s brother Glen.
> > What a mess. <br>
> > Then, the police showed up at our door a few months later. They
> > were really looking for my Greg this time because a student loan from way
> > back in his own drug days, before he became a Christian had not been paid
> > and the government was there to collect. We didn=92t know anything
> > about this bill because they had been sending collection notices to
> > Menominee Mississippi, but that didn=92t seem to help us much.
> > Fortunately, the bill was only about $300 and how that got paid off is
> > another miraculous story that I won=92t bother to take a detour to tell
> > here, but it is pretty good, none the less. Anyway, the police were
> > at my door and Greg was on the beach, about four blocks away, with
> > Matthew, who was, I think two, at the time, so I really panicked because
> > I had no idea what they wanted. <br>
> > Eventually, we got all the mess straightened around and we thought that
> > life was good until I received a call one day from a financial planner
> > congratulating me on the birth of my twins. I gasped and
> > stuttered. Then, the man on the other end said, =93Aren=92t you
> > Kathy
> > Du Bois?=94<br>
> > I replied that I was. =93And isn=92t your husband Greg?=94<br>
> > I confirmed that he was, but I assured him that I hadn=92t had twins
> > lately
> > and I thought that I should know. As we talked, I learned that,
> > evidently, the person who had been involved in the illegal dealings at
> > the beginning of this missive had married a girl named Kathy and they had
> > been blessed with twins. All I could say over and over was =93Thank
> > you Lord It=92s not me.=94 Unfortunately, now, there were at least
> > Three Kathy Du Bois in Menominee county and all of us had kids and some
> > of us were shady characters.<br>
> > We thought that our problems were over when we finally left Menominee
> > county and moved to Grand Rapids so that Greg could finish up his under
> > Graduate work. Imagine our surprise about a month after moving when
> > we received a letter from a lawyer assuring us that the suit against
> > Greg=92s mother would probably succeed and we could look forward to about
> > $75,000 in profit from the proceedings. I think that a simple phone
> > call straightened that one up, but I can=92t remember for sure right
> > now.<br>
> > When we moved to Grand Rapids, I was pregnant with Elizabeth who was born
> > on February 8. We were so happy to have a daughter, but,
> > unfortunately, attending our church at the same time were two other
> > ladies who gave birth within the ten days before Liz was born. Both
> > children were girls, the first girl in their family and each had two
> > older brothers, just like Elizabeth. To make matters worse, the
> > first girl was named Elisa and the other girl was Emily. We were
> > often getting called out of church for the wrong baby so, to really have
> > fun with the mess, we decided to have all three girls dedicated on the
> > same day with all the brothers in tow just to create a scene. The
> > worst part is when the pastor reached to take our sweet daughter, who was
> > about two months old at the time, into his arms and she grabbed his mike
> > and decided to begin screaming. She hadn=92t wanted to be taken away
> > from her mother, I guess. Anyway, she=92s the only child I know of
> > whom had to be removed from her own dedication because no one else could
> > hear anything!<br>
> > Nothing more really happened after that until we moved to Maine.
> > About a year after we moved hear, I received a call from a lady telling
> > me that her name was Kathy Du Bois and, she was afraid that our
> > prescriptions had been mixed up because we both use the same
> > pharmacy. Fortunately, I don=92t take any drugs, so I was able to
> > put
> > her mind at ease. We had probably had a prescription filled for
> > antibiotics for one of the kids or something. Anyway, she felt that
> > there was a mix up. I believe that her son was a
> > Christopher too, if I=92m not mistaken.<br>
> > And, if I had been writing this a month ago, I probably would have
> > thought that that was the end of the story, but thanks to my 9 year old,
> > Caleb, we=92ve learned of even another Kathy dubois since then.
> > Caleb
> > wanted to do the shopping. He was given the list and given very
> > strict instructions to find us after he had collected things and that he
> > was not to go through the check out line without us. Imagine our
> > surprise, as Greg and I were just strolling around and wasting time while
> > Caleb was trying to be a big boy, when we heard our names announced over
> > the loud speaker and ordered to report to the front of the store
> > immediately. It sounded like we were in trouble. I stayed in
> > one place, thinking that Caleb might be lost. Our thought was that
> > one of us should stay put and visible so that Caleb could find us easily.
> > It just made sense that I got to be the lucky one to stay put. Oh
> > goody! Well, Greg whisked passed the deli section toward the
> > front just in time to over here a conversation between two ladies.
> > The one was saying, =93Well they said, Kathy Du Bois should report to the
> > front of the store.=94 The other woman, left the counter, rather
> > confused, and mumbling, =91I wonder why.=94 Yes folks,
> > another Kathy Du Bois had been flushed out of hiding! <br>
> > OH, before I leave this point, I suppose you are wondering why we were
> > paged? Well, our son did not follow instructions and had wracked up
> > a bill that had to be paid for. Everyone had to patiently wait
> > behind this 9-year-old who had no money while is, seemingly errant
> > parents were out bumming. Have you ever wanted to crawl in a
> > whole? The whole line of customers was full of praise for how
> > well Caleb handled the situation and how adult he was. But, they
> > had nothing but daggers for Greg for making them wait. When I found out
> > what really happened, I have to admit that I was glad to be the parent
> > who was elected to stay put. No one ever knew!
> > Haha! Brother. I guess that we=92ll never win. Anyway,
> > it
> > all ended up okay.<br>
> > Now, are all of you confused? I had thought all along that Jones and
> > Smith were the most common names. I just find myself praising my
> > heavenly Father that He knows who I am, no matter what! And that,
> > while man may be confused, He will never be.<br>
> > Kathy<br>
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