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Kathy Du Bois <[log in to unmask]>
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The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:43:12 -0500
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Brad,
You're on!  I want a Mash example by sun down!  Grin!  Besides, I"m 
on your side, remember?  I pretty much feel the same way.  I'm just 
throwing in all the thoughts that you haven't thrown in yet.  Scary huh!
Kathy




At 01:54 PM 1/24/2006, you wrote:
>Nothing like a sister on your case lol or a couple in this case. OK OK OK
>OK already hahaha I'll do some thinking on your points. If Angel can refer
>to Scrooge, is it legal for me to find a MASH reference hahahahaha. Yes you
>and Angel present food for thought. I just  don't like to beat around the
>bush with mysterious questions, and yet I know unless he bonks me on the
>head down to my heart  or I read it in his word I may not know answers as
>such. I feel like a mouse looking for the cheese while the heavenlys
>are  watching with hand over mouths snickering in some places and in others
>covering their eyes breathing in deep through their teeth waiting for the
>crash. Perhaps rather than "windging" about it as an Aussie might say, I
>ought  pray, dig in and find out the answers eh? Who'd a thunk it.
>
>Brad
>
>
>At 01:37 PM 1/24/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hey Brad,H
> >Have you ever wondered how many of the people who were healed by
> >Jesus were also yelling, "crucify Him," at the trial?  We would
> >assume that none of them would be and that they would be grateful for
> >the blessing, yet none of them testified for Him at His trumpt up
> >trial.  I think about the ten lepers and wonder why only one came
> >back to say thank you.  I wonder how many of our common day
> >experiences are really blessings that we just don't see?  Do the
> >starving pray for food the way we pray for healing?  Do they say,
> >"Lord, if I just had something to eat, I would give you the
> >glory!"  I guess that any form of suffering could be substituted for
> >that example.  It is worth considering though, isn't it?
> >Kathy
> >
> >At 01:00 PM 1/24/2006, you wrote:
> > >Perhaps, yet those very folks he supposedly witnessed to watched 
> him hobble
> > >off yet lame. Which gives witness to the fact he was one of those left
> > >behind and not healed. God is soverign and obviously just and righteous,
> > >and it is I, if I don't understand, the one in need of a change, but I
> > >don't see how plattitudes are justification. God's will shown by his word
> > >does not show me his wish is for man to be afflicted. If so he'd 
> have layed
> > >hands on them, prayed, and said go about your way giving glory to God all
> > >your lame days. But he didn't. Neither had the disciples after Jesus was
> > >cruicified. We see those who believed he was Christ be healed and we see
> > >those who hadn't a clue be healed. The blind guy along the road side cried
> > >out to Christ as Lord, he knew Christ, already a bleiver giving glory to
> > >God, , yet Christ did heal him. So we really do have this 
> "Elephant" in the
> > >living room even here to some degree. I understand too that everyone has a
> > >threshold of tolerance in continuing to ask such questions, it isn't the
> > >first time I've been called stubborn hahahah. I just like to know squarely
> > >where things sit. Ever get someone to say to you...
> > >
> > >"Oh I've got something umm rather important to talk to you about next we
> > >meet? OK. Bye now!"
> > >
> > >It is like "Wait wait wait get back here! Don't leave me hanging 
> in mystery
> > >land, let's get this out now and eal with it and move on. "
> > >
> > >Brad
> > >
> > >
> > >At 12:30 PM 1/24/2006 -0800, you wrote:
> > > >in the Christmas Carroll Tiny Tim said it best.  When he came home
> > from the
> > > >Christmas eve service he said he was glad to be a cripple 
> because when the
> > > >whole people saw him they were more likely to remember the one who
> > made lame
> > > >men walk and the blind to see.  I, of course, am paraphrasing here.
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: MV <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 8:56 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: Biblical question
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > A couple definitions and then a comment.
> > > > >
> > > > > Old Testament:7623
> > > > > shabach (shaw-bakh'); a primitive root; properly, to 
> address in a loud
> > > > > tone, i.e. (specifically) loud; figuratively, to pacify (as if by
> > words):
> > > > >
> > > > > KJV - commend, glory, keep in, praise, still, triumph.
> > > > >
> > > > > New Testament:1391
> > > > > doxa (dox'-ah); from the base of NT:1380; glory (as very apparent),
> > in a
> > > > > wide application (literal or figurative, objective or subjective):
> > > > >
> > > > > KJV - dignity, glory (-ious), honour, praise, worship.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This scripture comes to mind...
> > > > >
> > > > > John 9:1-3
> > > > > As He passed by, He saw a man blind from birth.
> > > > > 2 And His disciples asked Him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his
> > > >parents,
> > > > > that he would be born blind?"
> > > > > 3 Jesus answered, "It was neither that this man sinned, nor his
> > parents;
> > > > > but it was so that the works of God might be displayed in him.
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course he was subsequently healed and all in the community
> > noticed he
> > > > > now could see and gave credit to Christ, who of course gave credit
> > to all
> > > > > he did and was to the Father.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think we naturally look for "glory of God" in situations 
> as being the
> > > > > healing so that others can easily see God's hand and honor and
> > power and
> > > > > etc. I suppose it could be said as well that we can also see the
> > glory of
> > > > > God in even our situation not yet healed and how we still trust and
> > > >believe
> > > > > and etc., however I myself , though I do trust and have 
> faith, tend to
> > > > > shirk from considering "blindness" as a glorification of God. Not
> > because
> > > >I
> > > > > don't want to give glorification, but I have yet to see
> > glorification to
> > > > > God of my blindness in the witness of on lookers. But then, my life
> > isn't
> > > > > for onlookers to view as a side show either, and what glory I
> > > can give God
> > > > > from my life as it is, is wonderful and privilege to be a 
> part of that.
> > > >I'm
> > > > > not sure God gets honor and etc. from my blindness, or from anyone's
> > > > > sickness. If there were glory to be found in illness and disease
> > > > > themselves, there'd be more of it and Jesus wouldn't have felt the
> > > > > compassion he did towards those who suffered as such. It 
> isn't easy to
> > > > > understand is it. I assume this has something to do with 
> the young lady
> > > > > Christian and Focus on the Family?
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad
> > >
> > >Brad
> > >
> > >    Inside an acorn lies an entire forest
>
>Brad
>
>    Man's way leads to a hopeless end, God's way leads to an  endless hope

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