I agree Angel. Infact I think what ever we go through in life is the best that could have happened. If things were different they would, like you said, be a lot worse.
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I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is
IN GOD WE TRUST
Karen Carter '74
-KC- Ministries
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> But those of us born with a condition such as lameness or blindness or
> deafness don't know what our lives would have been like had we been born
> whole. We may have been fully reprobate. Perhaps our condition contributes
> toward our relationship with God. Suffering brings out the best and the
> worst in us all.
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> From: MV <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: Biblical question
>
>
> > Perhaps, yet those very folks he supposedly witnessed to watched him
> hobble
> > off yet lame. Which gives witness to the fact he was one of those left
> > behind and not healed. God is soverign and obviously just and righteous,
> > and it is I, if I don't understand, the one in need of a change, but I
> > don't see how plattitudes are justification. God's will shown by his word
> > does not show me his wish is for man to be afflicted. If so he'd have
> layed
> > hands on them, prayed, and said go about your way giving glory to God all
> > your lame days. But he didn't. Neither had the disciples after Jesus was
> > cruicified. We see those who believed he was Christ be healed and we see
> > those who hadn't a clue be healed. The blind guy along the road side cried
> > out to Christ as Lord, he knew Christ, already a bleiver giving glory to
> > God, , yet Christ did heal him. So we really do have this "Elephant" in
> the
> > living room even here to some degree. I understand too that everyone has a
> > threshold of tolerance in continuing to ask such questions, it isn't the
> > first time I've been called stubborn hahahah. I just like to know squarely
> > where things sit. Ever get someone to say to you...
> >
> > "Oh I've got something umm rather important to talk to you about next we
> > meet? OK. Bye now!"
> >
> > It is like "Wait wait wait get back here! Don't leave me hanging in
> mystery
> > land, let's get this out now and eal with it and move on. "
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
> > At 12:30 PM 1/24/2006 -0800, you wrote:
> > >in the Christmas Carroll Tiny Tim said it best. When he came home from
> the
> > >Christmas eve service he said he was glad to be a cripple because when
> the
> > >whole people saw him they were more likely to remember the one who made
> lame
> > >men walk and the blind to see. I, of course, am paraphrasing here.
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: MV <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 8:56 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Biblical question
> > >
> > >
> > > > A couple definitions and then a comment.
> > > >
> > > > Old Testament:7623
> > > > shabach (shaw-bakh'); a primitive root; properly, to address in a loud
> > > > tone, i.e. (specifically) loud; figuratively, to pacify (as if by
> words):
> > > >
> > > > KJV - commend, glory, keep in, praise, still, triumph.
> > > >
> > > > New Testament:1391
> > > > doxa (dox'-ah); from the base of NT:1380; glory (as very apparent), in
> a
> > > > wide application (literal or figurative, objective or subjective):
> > > >
> > > > KJV - dignity, glory (-ious), honour, praise, worship.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This scripture comes to mind...
> > > >
> > > > John 9:1-3
> > > > As He passed by, He saw a man blind from birth.
> > > > 2 And His disciples asked Him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his
> > >parents,
> > > > that he would be born blind?"
> > > > 3 Jesus answered, "It was neither that this man sinned, nor his
> parents;
> > > > but it was so that the works of God might be displayed in him.
> > > >
> > > > Of course he was subsequently healed and all in the community noticed
> he
> > > > now could see and gave credit to Christ, who of course gave credit to
> all
> > > > he did and was to the Father.
> > > >
> > > > I think we naturally look for "glory of God" in situations as being
> the
> > > > healing so that others can easily see God's hand and honor and power
> and
> > > > etc. I suppose it could be said as well that we can also see the glory
> of
> > > > God in even our situation not yet healed and how we still trust and
> > >believe
> > > > and etc., however I myself , though I do trust and have faith, tend to
> > > > shirk from considering "blindness" as a glorification of God. Not
> because
> > >I
> > > > don't want to give glorification, but I have yet to see glorification
> to
> > > > God of my blindness in the witness of on lookers. But then, my life
> isn't
> > > > for onlookers to view as a side show either, and what glory I can give
> God
> > > > from my life as it is, is wonderful and privilege to be a part of
> that.
> > >I'm
> > > > not sure God gets honor and etc. from my blindness, or from anyone's
> > > > sickness. If there were glory to be found in illness and disease
> > > > themselves, there'd be more of it and Jesus wouldn't have felt the
> > > > compassion he did towards those who suffered as such. It isn't easy to
> > > > understand is it. I assume this has something to do with the young
> lady
> > > > Christian and Focus on the Family?
> > > >
> > > > Brad
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > Inside an acorn lies an entire forest
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