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Karen Carter <[log in to unmask]>
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The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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I like that it touches my heart.  Praise the Lord. 

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I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is

IN GOD WE TRUST
Karen Carter  '74
-KC- Ministries


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> I knew a pastor's wife who was deaf-blind.  She did quite well at it as well
> I am told.  She spoke quite clearly, as she wasn't always deaf.  I met her a
> few times and she was an inspiration.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kathy Du Bois <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 4:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Man's man
> 
> 
> > In other words Brad, you hadn't met me yet!  GRIN!  The main comment
> > that I receive when people learn that I"m a pastor's wife is, "You're
> > not the right type!"  What a hoot!  Breaking molds can be so much fun!
> > Kathy
> >
> >
> > At 12:42 AM 1/23/2006, you wrote:
> > >Vicki,
> > >
> > >Well if enough folks talk to him, maybe that will cause him to stop and
> > >think perhaps there is something to what others have to say about it. I
> > >wonder what his fear of it is. For me years back was I didn't want to
> > >lose  my way of life. I pictured church people as straight backed, clean
> > >shaven, lily white skinned, pathetically polite people in sweaters with
> > >leather patches on the elbows and if their kids misbehaved badly to a
> point
> > >of embarrassment in public it was "Now Jimmy chuckle chuckle that's just
> > >about enough of that for now OK? Good boy". I had a tainted impression
> > >based upon some poor examples. I'm not saying Christians out be unshaven
> > >rude people, but my impression was picket fence hypocrites and wanted no
> > >part of being fake. I'd rather wanted to stay me even if I was off, but
> at
> > >least I was what you saw. So anyway, perhaps he too has a wrong
> impression
> > >and thinks Christians are boring folks and if he becomes one, he'll too
> be
> > >boring lol.
> > >
> > >Brad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At 04:02 PM 1/21/2006 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >Mom has talked with him too.  But he doesn't want to listen.  I'm
> > > >considering a couple of other options too.  But he likes my Oatmeal
> Raisin
> > > >cookies.  We might have a talk over a cookie.  My sister is quite anti.
> > > >There isn't an open door there right now at all.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks for your concern and prayers.
> > > >
> > > >Vicki
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:11 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [ECHURCH-USA] Man's man
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Vicki,
> > > > >
> > > > > Glad to hear your mom has made that step. Has she tried talking to
> him
> > > > > about it, or perhaps you and mom together? Sounds like your sister
> might
> > > > > need to sit in  as well from what you said. Maybe you need to get
> some
> > > >duct
> > > > > tape and tape his lips together and have him sit on his hands and
> listen
> > > >to
> > > > > the plain facts of life *smile*. It is hard sometimes to gain
> > > respect from
> > > > > a relative, let alone a child telling a parent what the score is.
> One
> > > >thing
> > > > > I know about Bear is he was witnessed to many times, the preacher as
> you
> > > > > saw in the article was subject to a number of abuses going in there
> to
> > > >talk
> > > > > to him, and yet he was softened by that constant reminder and
> tangible
> > > > > evidence someone cared.  Had the prisoner not taken that last step
> of
> > > > > making a bet with him, and no one did anything else to witness to
> Bear,
> > > > > he'd likely not be where he is today. I pray your dad is afforded
> yet
> > > > > another try, and another, and another until he sees the truth.
> > > And someone
> > > > > with boldness and who might have a way to gain the respect needed to
> have
> > > > > him listen crosses his path.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad
> > > > >
> > > > > At 01:32 PM 1/21/2006 -0700, you wrote:
> > > > > >Great article Brad.  Thanks for sharing.  It really points up the
> fact
> > > >that
> > > > > >God knows how to reach each and every one of us.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Dad is a very kind and giving person.  I'm not sure why this other
> part
> > > >of
> > > > > >him is hardened to the Gospel, but God knows.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Vicki
> > > > > >
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > >Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:21 PM
> > > > > >Subject: [ECHURCH-USA] Man's man
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Vicki,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Check this link out. If God can turn Bear around, he can change
> > > >anyone.
> > > > > > > I've heard Bear speak and met him a couple times, he was good
> friends
> > > >with
> > > > > > > a friend of mine,  and the link here doesn't tell the half of
> his
> > > >story.
> > > > > >So
> > > > > > > your dad is a cream puff compared to what this man endured, only
> he
> > > >don't
> > > > > > > know it yet lol. To tell you just how a Teddy Bear Richard
> became, my
> > > > > >buddy
> > > > > > > bought a little teddy bear on one of their motorcycle trips
> > > and put it
> > > >in
> > > > > > > his pack for him to find. My friend had walked up to him when he
> was
> > > >at
> > > > > >his
> > > > > > > bike and found this six foot something mountain of a man  with
> tears
> > > >down
> > > > > > > his face over the act of kindness and I suppose so much a
> freeing
> > > >opposite
> > > > > > > compared to what he lived all those years.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.circuitridersdfw.org/page8.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brad
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    Work is for people who don't know how to write songs
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad
> > > > >
> > > > >    Get educated, not frustrated
> > > > >
> > >
> > >Brad
> > >
> > >    Give Satan an inch & he'll be a ruler

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