Hey Vickie,
That's all right I'm not bashful. I just wanted you to know that I will be
praying.
Virgie and Hoshi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: question
> Virgie,
>
> Thanks so very much. I really appreciate it. I should have added "and
> everybody," as I meant it for all too.
>
> Hugs,
> Vicki
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [ECHURCH-USA] question
>
>
>> Hi Vickie,
>> I know you sent this message to David and Brad but I want you to know I
> will
>> be praying for your Dad as well.
>> Virgie and Hoshi
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:28 AM
>> Subject: Fw: [ECHURCH-USA] question
>>
>>
>> >> David and Brad,,
>> >>
>> >> Both my parents are seniors. They're wonderful people. My dad is not
>> >> saved. He struggles with severe chronic pain due to arthritis in his
>> > spine.
>> >> He said to me the other day in a casual conversation that he didn't
>> >> expect
>> >> to live but 2 or 3 more years at most. I don't know that I believe
>> >> it.
>> >> However he is almost 80. Any of us could be in eternity the next
> second,
>> > so
>> >> only God knows. It made me very sad. We've prayed for him for years
> for
>> >> salvation. Besides being my Dad, he's a favorite person. When my dad
>> > told
>> >> me that we were on the phone, discussing something about my mom, as
>> >> she
>> >> is
>> >> having some physical issues. He had company so we couldn't talk
> longer.
>> > I
>> >> would be so sad not to have my dad with me in heaven. Mom will be I
>> >> believe. I know others of us on this list have unsaved loved ones.
> Pray
>> >> for my dad. And also for any other unsaved loved ones.
>> >>
>> >> Vicki
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "David Stahl" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:45 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [ECHURCH-USA] question
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Jen, I'm going to offer an answer to your question. Revelation
>> >> > 21:4 says, "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes;
>> >> > and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying,
>> >> > neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are
>> >> > passed away." Please note that the first thing that verse tells us
>> >> > is that God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes. Why do
>> >> > you think that will be? I believe at the white throne judgment,
>> >> > when those of us who are saved, born again, believers, must
>> >> > watch our loved ones who have rejected Christ being turned
>> >> > away into hell for eternity, we will be filled with unspeakable
>> >> > grief and sorrow, and will weep bitterly. Afterward, God shall
>> >> > wipe away all tears from our eyes; and there will be no more
>> >> > unpleasantness in heaven from that time forward. I realize this
>> >> > is open to controversy; but that's my opinion, and I'm right. LOL!
>> >> > Dave
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "jen and Star" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:56 PM
>> >> > Subject: question
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Brad,
>> >> >
>> >> > You're absolutely right. Of course we'll see our loved ones
>> >> > again...
>> >> saved
>> >> > or not... at the white throne judgement. My question to that is...
>> >> > will
>> >> we
>> >> > be sad? Will we cry when we see our unsaved loved ones be cast into
>> >> > the
>> >> > lake of fire? Will Christ cry or feel sad?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Jen and MAMA-Star
>> >> > "Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have
> trouble
>> >> > remembering how to fly."
>> >> > Author unknown
>> >> > AIM: jenibear1998
>> >> > msn
>> >> > [log in to unmask]
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:21 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: Prayer for a friend
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > > Jen,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Yes that is true, and what is really sad is that there are those
> who
>> >> > > aren't
>> >> > > saved, and yet still think they will see loved ones when the game
> is
>> >> over.
>> >> > > It still makes the loss go down easier now, but doesn't change the
>> >> future
>> >> > > that lyes before them in eternity. They may well see them, but if
> not
>> >> > > saved
>> >> > > by Christ, they'll be meeting in a different rendezvous point than
>> > they
>> >> > > assumed. That to me would be worse.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Brad
>> >> > > At 05:07 PM 1/15/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> > >>Brad. This is true. But i was just curious. It seems a death is
>> >> easier
>> >> > >>if
>> >> > >>one is saved because the grievigng individuals know they'll see
> them
>> >> > >>again.
>> >> > >>Again, just curious.
>> >> > >>Jen and MAMA-Star
>> >> > >>"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have
>> > trouble
>> >> > >>remembering how to fly."
>> >> > >>Author unknown
>> >> > >>AIM: jenibear1998
>> >> > >>msn
>> >> > >>[log in to unmask]
>> >> > >>----- Original Message -----
>> >> > >>From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > >>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:45 PM
>> >> > >>Subject: Re: Prayer for a friend
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > Jen,
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > I would like to say yes, but as with any of us, it is between
> them
>> >> and
>> >> > >> > God.
>> >> > >> > They are good people, do much to help others, you couldn't find
>> >> better
>> >> > >> > folks, but as you know it is acceptance of Christ in your
>> >> > >> > heart
>> > that
>> >> > >> > makes
>> >> > >> > the difference and not works. I tend to think they are but I
> don't
>> >> > >> > know.
>> >> > >> > Either way Kathy has found out one way or the other.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Brad
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > At 01:48 PM 1/15/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> > >> >>thanks. Isd lary and was his wife saved?
>> >> > >> >>Jen and MAMA-Star
>> >> > >> >>"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have
>> >> trouble
>> >> > >> >>remembering how to fly."
>> >> > >> >>Author unknown
>> >> > >> >>AIM: jenibear1998
>> >> > >> >>msn
>> >> > >> >>[log in to unmask]
>> >> > >> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >> > >> >>From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > >> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > >> >>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:43 PM
>> >> > >> >>Subject: Re: Prayer for a friend
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> > PS. I like your tag line about friends.
>> >> > >> >> >
>> >> > >> >> > Brad
>> >> > >> >> >
>> >> > >> >> >
>> >> > >> >> > At 12:02 PM 1/15/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> > >> >> >>wow brad. Will keep him in prayer. Do you see Lary often?
>> >> > >> >> >>Jen and MAMA-Star
>> >> > >> >> >>"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings
> have
>> >> > >> >> >>trouble
>> >> > >> >> >>remembering how to fly."
>> >> > >> >> >>Author unknown
>> >> > >> >> >>AIM: jenibear1998
>> >> > >> >> >>msn
>> >> > >> >> >>[log in to unmask]
>> >> > >> >> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >> > >> >> >>From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > >> >> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > >> >> >>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:42 AM
>> >> > >> >> >>Subject: Prayer for a friend
>> >> > >> >> >>
>> >> > >> >> >>
>> >> > >> >> >> > Hello All,
>> >> > >> >> >> >
>> >> > >> >> >> > I would ask you pray for a very dear friend of mine who
> lost
>> >> his
>> >> > >> >> >> > wife
>> >> > >> >> >> > yesterday. In the midst of enjoying their final leg of a
>> >> Western
>> >> > >> >> >> > Caribbean
>> >> > >> >> >> > cruise, along with many of their fellow friends and NFB
>> >> members,
>> >> > >> >> >> > Kathleen
>> >> > >> >> >> > Sebranek suddenly passed away. Larry her husband, my
> friend,
>> >> will
>> >> > >> >> >> > be
>> >> > >> >> >> > especially grievous as they did everything together as a
>> >> couple,
>> >> > >> >> >> > many
>> >> > >> >> >> > cruises and visits with friends across the US. No doubt
>> >> > >> >> >> > he
>> > will
>> >> > >> >> >> > be
>> >> > >> >> >> > inundated with calls and visits of sympathy, which can be
>> >> > >> >> >> > overwhelming
>> >> > >> >> >> > in
>> >> > >> >> >> > itself as nice as the gesture is, I know as well he'll
> have
>> > a
>> >> > >> >> >> > huge
>> >> > >> >> >> > life
>> >> > >> >> >> > change to deal with when things quiet. She in recent
>> >> > >> >> >> > times
>> > has
>> >> > >> >> >> > been
>> >> > >> >> >> > in
>> >> > >> >> >> > a
>> >> > >> >> >> > wheel chair due to health various issues and also blind,
> as
>> >> well
>> >> > >> >> >> > as
>> >> > >> >> >> > Larry
>> >> > >> >> >> > being blind himself pushing her around from event to
> event,
>> >> > >> >> >> > certainly
>> >> > >> >> >> > were
>> >> > >> >> >> > inspiring to those who felt they couldn't negotiate
>> >> > >> >> >> > travel
>> > with
>> >> a
>> >> > >> >> >> > disability. We enjoyed a seven day cruise last year with
>> >> > >> >> >> > them
>> >> > >> >> >> > when
>> >> > >> >> >> > Brenda
>> >> > >> >> >> > and I had our 20th wedding anniversary. Thanks so much
>> >> > >> >> >> > for
>> > your
>> >> > >> >> >> > prayers
>> >> > >> >> >> > on
>> >> > >> >> >> > his behalf.
>> >> > >> >> >> >
>> >> > >> >> >> > Brad
>> >> > >> >> >> >
>> >> > >> >> >
>> >> > >> >> > Brad
>> >> > >> >> >
>> >> > >> >> > Do not change your theology to accommodate a tragedy
>> >> > >> >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Brad
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Strive to be insulated, not insulated
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Brad
>> >> > >
>> >> > > A successful relationship isn't finding the right person; it's
>> >> > > being
>> >> the
>> >> > > right person
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
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