Vicki,
OK. That gives a refernce point. Thanks. There were bigger man's men that
have become jello when God hits them.
Brad
At 12:33 PM 1/21/2006 -0700, you wrote:
>Brad,
>
>He's a wood working kind of a guy. Was a bus driver for his career, but
>built houses from the ground up on the side. A man's man, who doesn't think
>he needs God. Maybe he thinks God can't save the likes of him too, not
>realizing that before God, we're all sinners. It's okay for the ladies to
>have, but being a man's man, he has no need for religion. Haven't talked
>with him for a long time. He's closer to my sister because they are so much
>alike. And she is just plain anti-Jesus.
>
>Vicki
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:07 AM
>Subject: Re: [ECHURCH-USA] Fw: [ECHURCH-USA] question
>
>
> > Vicki,
> >
> > What is his objection? I mean some folks are too methodical or too much in
> > reasoning things out to rely on faith, it isn't practical for them or they
> > are too intellectual. Some just think it is of no real value or
> > application, no evidence of it being real and so don't believe. Others
>just
> > like where they are in life and don't want to upset the apple cart. Where
> > does he stand? That would help a prayer focus.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
> > At 07:28 AM 1/21/2006 -0700, you wrote:
> > > > David and Brad,,
> > > >
> > > > Both my parents are seniors. They're wonderful people. My dad is not
> > > > saved. He struggles with severe chronic pain due to arthritis in his
> > >spine.
> > > > He said to me the other day in a casual conversation that he didn't
>expect
> > > > to live but 2 or 3 more years at most. I don't know that I believe
>it.
> > > > However he is almost 80. Any of us could be in eternity the next
>second,
> > >so
> > > > only God knows. It made me very sad. We've prayed for him for years
>for
> > > > salvation. Besides being my Dad, he's a favorite person. When my dad
> > >told
> > > > me that we were on the phone, discussing something about my mom, as
>she is
> > > > having some physical issues. He had company so we couldn't talk
>longer.
> > >I
> > > > would be so sad not to have my dad with me in heaven. Mom will be I
> > > > believe. I know others of us on this list have unsaved loved ones.
>Pray
> > > > for my dad. And also for any other unsaved loved ones.
> > > >
> > > > Vicki
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "David Stahl" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:45 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ECHURCH-USA] question
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Jen, I'm going to offer an answer to your question. Revelation
> > > > > 21:4 says, "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes;
> > > > > and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying,
> > > > > neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are
> > > > > passed away." Please note that the first thing that verse tells us
> > > > > is that God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes. Why do
> > > > > you think that will be? I believe at the white throne judgment,
> > > > > when those of us who are saved, born again, believers, must
> > > > > watch our loved ones who have rejected Christ being turned
> > > > > away into hell for eternity, we will be filled with unspeakable
> > > > > grief and sorrow, and will weep bitterly. Afterward, God shall
> > > > > wipe away all tears from our eyes; and there will be no more
> > > > > unpleasantness in heaven from that time forward. I realize this
> > > > > is open to controversy; but that's my opinion, and I'm right. LOL!
> > > > > Dave
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "jen and Star" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:56 PM
> > > > > Subject: question
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad,
> > > > >
> > > > > You're absolutely right. Of course we'll see our loved ones
>again...
> > > > saved
> > > > > or not... at the white throne judgement. My question to that is...
>will
> > > > we
> > > > > be sad? Will we cry when we see our unsaved loved ones be cast into
>the
> > > > > lake of fire? Will Christ cry or feel sad?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jen and MAMA-Star
> > > > > "Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have
>trouble
> > > > > remembering how to fly."
> > > > > Author unknown
> > > > > AIM: jenibear1998
> > > > > msn
> > > > > [log in to unmask]
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:21 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Prayer for a friend
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Jen,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes that is true, and what is really sad is that there are those
>who
> > > > > > aren't
> > > > > > saved, and yet still think they will see loved ones when the game
>is
> > > > over.
> > > > > > It still makes the loss go down easier now, but doesn't change the
> > > > future
> > > > > > that lyes before them in eternity. They may well see them, but if
>not
> > > > > > saved
> > > > > > by Christ, they'll be meeting in a different rendezvous point than
> > >they
> > > > > > assumed. That to me would be worse.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brad
> > > > > > At 05:07 PM 1/15/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > >>Brad. This is true. But i was just curious. It seems a death is
> > > > easier
> > > > > >>if
> > > > > >>one is saved because the grievigng individuals know they'll see
>them
> > > > > >>again.
> > > > > >>Again, just curious.
> > > > > >>Jen and MAMA-Star
> > > > > >>"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have
> > >trouble
> > > > > >>remembering how to fly."
> > > > > >>Author unknown
> > > > > >>AIM: jenibear1998
> > > > > >>msn
> > > > > >>[log in to unmask]
> > > > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >>From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > >>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:45 PM
> > > > > >>Subject: Re: Prayer for a friend
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Jen,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I would like to say yes, but as with any of us, it is between
>them
> > > > and
> > > > > >> > God.
> > > > > >> > They are good people, do much to help others, you couldn't find
> > > > better
> > > > > >> > folks, but as you know it is acceptance of Christ in your
>heart
> > >that
> > > > > >> > makes
> > > > > >> > the difference and not works. I tend to think they are but I
>don't
> > > > > >> > know.
> > > > > >> > Either way Kathy has found out one way or the other.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Brad
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > At 01:48 PM 1/15/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > >> >>thanks. Isd lary and was his wife saved?
> > > > > >> >>Jen and MAMA-Star
> > > > > >> >>"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have
> > > > trouble
> > > > > >> >>remembering how to fly."
> > > > > >> >>Author unknown
> > > > > >> >>AIM: jenibear1998
> > > > > >> >>msn
> > > > > >> >>[log in to unmask]
> > > > > >> >>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >> >>From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > >> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > >> >>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:43 PM
> > > > > >> >>Subject: Re: Prayer for a friend
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> > PS. I like your tag line about friends.
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> > Brad
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> > At 12:02 PM 1/15/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > >> >> >>wow brad. Will keep him in prayer. Do you see Lary often?
> > > > > >> >> >>Jen and MAMA-Star
> > > > > >> >> >>"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings
>have
> > > > > >> >> >>trouble
> > > > > >> >> >>remembering how to fly."
> > > > > >> >> >>Author unknown
> > > > > >> >> >>AIM: jenibear1998
> > > > > >> >> >>msn
> > > > > >> >> >>[log in to unmask]
> > > > > >> >> >>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >> >> >>From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > >> >> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > >> >> >>Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:42 AM
> > > > > >> >> >>Subject: Prayer for a friend
> > > > > >> >> >>
> > > > > >> >> >>
> > > > > >> >> >> > Hello All,
> > > > > >> >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >> > I would ask you pray for a very dear friend of mine who
>lost
> > > > his
> > > > > >> >> >> > wife
> > > > > >> >> >> > yesterday. In the midst of enjoying their final leg of a
> > > > Western
> > > > > >> >> >> > Caribbean
> > > > > >> >> >> > cruise, along with many of their fellow friends and NFB
> > > > members,
> > > > > >> >> >> > Kathleen
> > > > > >> >> >> > Sebranek suddenly passed away. Larry her husband, my
>friend,
> > > > will
> > > > > >> >> >> > be
> > > > > >> >> >> > especially grievous as they did everything together as a
> > > > couple,
> > > > > >> >> >> > many
> > > > > >> >> >> > cruises and visits with friends across the US. No doubt
>he
> > >will
> > > > > >> >> >> > be
> > > > > >> >> >> > inundated with calls and visits of sympathy, which can be
> > > > > >> >> >> > overwhelming
> > > > > >> >> >> > in
> > > > > >> >> >> > itself as nice as the gesture is, I know as well he'll
>have
> > >a
> > > > > >> >> >> > huge
> > > > > >> >> >> > life
> > > > > >> >> >> > change to deal with when things quiet. She in recent
>times
> > >has
> > > > > >> >> >> > been
> > > > > >> >> >> > in
> > > > > >> >> >> > a
> > > > > >> >> >> > wheel chair due to health various issues and also blind,
>as
> > > > well
> > > > > >> >> >> > as
> > > > > >> >> >> > Larry
> > > > > >> >> >> > being blind himself pushing her around from event to
>event,
> > > > > >> >> >> > certainly
> > > > > >> >> >> > were
> > > > > >> >> >> > inspiring to those who felt they couldn't negotiate
>travel
> > >with
> > > > a
> > > > > >> >> >> > disability. We enjoyed a seven day cruise last year with
>them
> > > > > >> >> >> > when
> > > > > >> >> >> > Brenda
> > > > > >> >> >> > and I had our 20th wedding anniversary. Thanks so much
>for
> > >your
> > > > > >> >> >> > prayers
> > > > > >> >> >> > on
> > > > > >> >> >> > his behalf.
> > > > > >> >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >> > Brad
> > > > > >> >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> > Brad
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> > Do not change your theology to accommodate a tragedy
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Brad
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Strive to be insulated, not insulated
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brad
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A successful relationship isn't finding the right person; it's
>being
> > > > the
> > > > > > right person
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > Don't wait for six strong men to take you to church
> >
Brad
Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot
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