Pat,

The name of the poem is The Table

I even tried searching for keywords in any doc file on my computer with
Windows + F and searched for the word "resin" as it is  fairly unique word
that is in the poem but came up with a big goose egg *smile*. If you find
it Pat, and I get a song written? I'll let you be the first to hear,
critique, and kick it about lol.

Brad

At 07:58 AM 1/6/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>Brad,
>
>If you let us know the name of that poem or song, perhaps some of us might
>have saved it. I can find it. I have saved literally huge folders of text
>stuff like that. I bet I might even have it. lol.
>
>Don't let anything or anyone discourage you. I love what others are saying
>here, as well.
>
>Love and Blessings,
>Pat Ferguson
>
>
>At 07:50 PM 1/5/2006, you wrote:
> >Rhonda,
> >
> >You know it is funny you mentioned that. That was a poem I wrote when I was
> >living in Texas modeled after a poem that dealt with teen suicide. It was
> >called "The Table" and I've looked high and low for that thing. I know I
> >sent it to the list here, but that was before Phil went and changed the
> >name of the list from E Church, to E Church USA or something... thanks a
> >lot Phil lol. The archives aren't available for the old list, and I suspect
> >we'll lose any archives now with this new switch. I wanted to use that
> >whole poem as a metaphorical basis for a song. So, again, if any of you
> >happen to never ever empty your trash bin lol or for some reason have a
> >copy of it, I'd greatly appreciate a return. I thought I had put it in my
> >journal, but like now, I'm seldom getting time to write in it, and likely
> >didn't. I had sent it to a fellow in Texas for a resource for counseling,
> >but never got a response from him either so I suspect it is gone forever.
> >That was a computer or so ago and no longer have any remains of an outbox
> >entry.
> >
> >Yes, those are the songs that stand out to me, the Christian orientated in
> >a sea of secular stuff.
> >
> >Brad
> >
> >
> >At 08:27 PM 1/5/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Whether you write music that is for a "secular" audience, you will
> still be
> > >sending the Love Of God along with your songs,  just because we don't
> > >mention God's name for all to hear doesn't mean we can put forth
> values that
> > >encourage love, forgiveness, and joy.  Many country songs
> combine  religious
> > >ideas and ideas about love.  I was thinking of that song you wrote
> about the
> > >married couple who had the Bible on  their table, and how they gradually
> > >thought it less and less important, until they faced each other on a table
> > >shared by lawyers with the Bible long forgotten.  That would be a great
> > >Christian song or a great country song as well.
> > >Rhonda
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
> > >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of MV
> > >Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 7:32 PM
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: Directional Update
> > >
> > >Rhonda, and Virgie too said the same thing. The only question I had was in
> > >what venue ought those gifts be used. I don't want to try to justify
> my own
> > >agenda in the name of carrying Christian beliefs through a back door for
> > >affectivness sake, and forgo using it in a church setting if that is what
> > >he wants. I just don't get the peace about it that way, which to me seems
> > >odd, but I'm following the peace within as a guide of the Holy Spirit.
> > >
> > >Brad
> > >
> > >
> > >At 05:36 PM 1/5/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >Great to  hear Brad!!! Will be praying for you, I do think you have a
> > gift,
> > > >and gifts should used not left on a shelf somewhere!!!
> > > >Rhonda
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
> > > >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of MV
> > > >Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:07 AM
> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >Subject: Directional Update
> > > >
> > > >In case anyone cares for a follow up on the songwriting direction I had
> > > >asked for prayer a while back. I  asked God for several things,
> > firstly was
> > > >his will regarding the entire direction, and I guess evidence of his
> will
> > > >to be revealed as I stepped out  in faith. In other words I  felt inside
> > > >that because the songwriting kept coming up, and it is a desirous
> > > >aspiration or dream of mine which he has somewhat  gifted me with some
> > > >abilities, sounds conceited I do not mean it so, I feel like a
> plankton in
> > > >a sea of more talented folks, that it would be irresponsible to nix
> > > >that   inspiration and dream by tossing it off the side. With that I
> moved
> > > >forward, had some books scanned, bought one or two and having them
> > scanned,
> > > >joined NSAI, Nashville Songwriters Association International, a group
> > meant
> > > >to help and network anyone from just starting, to professional writers.
> > > >Having just sat in on my first regional meeting here in the Twin Cities
> > > >Minneapolis/ St. Paul, I found it to be very encouraging and friendly
> > > >folks. I was pretty apprehensive of what it might be like. I jumped in
> > with
> > > >both feet and submitted a song for critique   of just me and my
> guitar not
> > > >knowing what kind of critiquing they do. I was very encouraged by the
> > > >response. I did get some helpful ideas, however I was told the song is a
> > > >pitchable song. Which means is worthy of sending to a publisher for
> > > >consideration to see if there is any artist looking for such a song.
> Kind
> > > >of the bottom of the food chain but very encouraging nonetheless. I was
> > > >fortunate to just happen to sit next to a Nashville writer who was the
> > > >guest speaker and got to talk to her during break as well. Although this
> > > >week I'm behind in my actual writing and in the midst  of a dry spot as
> > > >Julie mentioned she is as well, I was blessed with a few songs recently
> > > >which good, bad, or indifferent, they are part of the growth and
> learning.
> > > >The Nashville writer I sat next two is having a workshop up here in
> March
> > > >which I'll be attending. The workshop is actually based off a  Berkely
> > > >School of Music course she is in the midst of being accredited into
> their
> > > >system. This is a great opportunity for only $45 as she is from this
> area
> > > >and wants to contribute to her home area. I'm also making plans to
> > attend a
> > > >Song Camp through NSAI in February which I just found a potential
> roommate
> > > >at the NSAI meeting last night, to share hotel expense. This is a very
> > > >exciting time, although, humbling time. I was wiped out when I got home
> > > >last night, I didn't realize the adrenalin I was shooting out having
> > jumped
> > > >in and submitted a song to be chewed up by peers who have been writing a
> > > >lot longer than I. The best compliment I got was from a guy who said ...
> > > >"I'll be singing that chorus all the way home..*I laughed in
> humility*...
> > > >no really I will" he said. I pray for continued direction with this
> dream
> > > >knowing full well god can remove the grace and ability anytime. I am
> > > >setting one foot in front of the other and if the toes aren't
> stepped on,
> > > >I  assume God is with me, if he seems down on my toes, I'll look for
> > > >another direction he has for me. One last thought and something to pray
> > > >about if you so choose. I have a desire   for a certain focus on song
> > > >content, and praying whether that is God's will for my focus. Being a
> > > >Christian , and aspirations to be an affective songwriter, one might
> > > >automatically assume you'd write praise and worship, or quote, Christian
> > > >market songs.  I believe there is definitely a need, however, where
> I seem
> > > >to be drawn to is the Christian values and principles, wrapped in a less
> > > >Christianese view by those who do not yet share those same values.
> That is
> > > >to say a secular market that is being infiltrated by  the Word in a
> manner
> > > >it can be affective outside of the Christian arena, if that is making
> > sense
> > > >to you. Anyway, that is where things sit, and in the end I hope and
> pray I
> > > >am on God's trek for my life and not running off with my own agenda, I
> > pray
> > > >for stuff and he supplies it so I assume I'm where I need to be
> right now
> > > >and continue to seek his direction. This all seems to me so selfish
> in my
> > > >mind in a way, yet peace of it as a whole is overwhelming.
> > > >
> > > >Brad
> > >
> > >Brad
> > >
> > >    You are richer today if you have laughed, given, or forgiven
> >
> >Brad
> >
> >    If you want people to quit poking holes in your boat, put them in the
> >boat with you

Brad

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