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From: The Electronic Church [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of MV
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 6:11 PM
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Subject: Re: The latest from Chris

Can't go wrong with Bibllical principles no matter what it seems like in

our head. Praying.

Brad


At 01:13 PM 2/10/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>Brad,
>          chris can't come home.  Not yet.  He would be lucky if he
>graduated from high school next year at the rate that he is going.  I
>have an idea that eventually he will end up on the street.  that's
>when I am going to need everybody's prayers for strength more than
>ever.  What parent ever wants to see a child go through that;
>especially when it would be so easy to rescue him from it, but
>Proverbs warns us that if you rescue a hot tempered man, you'll just
>have to do it again.  I want the cycle to break and that is what
>keeps me going.  Besides, I have peace in my home now and I don't
>want to give that up.  Protecting Caleb and Liz helps to give me the
>strength to continue saying "NO!"  But also, my love of Chris and my
>knowledge of what truly is best for him, is also a source of strength.
>Thanks for praying!
>Kathy
>
>
>At 11:25 AM 2/10/2006, you wrote:
> >Kathy,
> >
> >He is finding out his actions and decisions might be taken in stride
by
> >himself, but very serious by others around him. Personally? And this
is my
> >own view, before I'd take Chris back, I'd not even consider it until
he has
> >decided  he just can't stand it there no more, not one more day, let
him
> >really feel why that is, the lifestyle, the value system, everything,
and
> >then when he  has really had it, fed up to the gills? Then I'd
suggest him
> >looking at his budget and how he can fund an apartment of his own or
go in
> >with some buddies on one, either that or learn to get along with
Nikki and
> >family.  From all I've been exposed to in the saga of Chris'
ventures,
> >which no doubt there are tons I don't know, I really can't see how
Chris
> >could possibly learn responsibility of independence and etc and to
respect
> >his family and provision, without having to have learned that for
himself.
> >This would be a great tool in getting him to the plate with  the bat
ready
> >to hit the pitches life has given him and the  game he chose to
enter. He's
> >got what four months until he is out of high  school? Provided he
> >graduates... I'm not certain of your confidence in that based off
your
> >report of school. The long and short of my point is, take him back
now or
> >even if he looks like he has made some changes, and based off your
passed
> >recounts of his behavior, he'll be 25 years old and still living at
home
> >hanging with the guys. Desperation creates innovation. How many times
in
> >life have we been faced with very tough situations and decisions,
many of
> >which had nothing to do with our own choosing, and it was working
through
> >that situation which made us stronger and confident in life? Oh Lord,
> >*looking upwards* don't take that as a plea for hard times for any of
us
> >hahahaah. But it is true nonetheless. I am in the midst of such a
lesson
> >with my son, but he is learning and showing signs of responsibility.
I
> >bailed him out once financially but not this time and he is forced to
deal
> >with those he  deals with, the bank, credit card, etc. How can they
learn
> >to appreciate the help they've been given if not had to fend for
themselves
> >first hand. That is my 1and a half cents worth.
> >
> >Brad

Brad

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