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Vicki,

Well if enough folks talk to him, maybe that will cause him to stop and 
think perhaps there is something to what others have to say about it. I 
wonder what his fear of it is. For me years back was I didn't want to 
lose  my way of life. I pictured church people as straight backed, clean 
shaven, lily white skinned, pathetically polite people in sweaters with 
leather patches on the elbows and if their kids misbehaved badly to a point 
of embarrassment in public it was "Now Jimmy chuckle chuckle that's just 
about enough of that for now OK? Good boy". I had a tainted impression 
based upon some poor examples. I'm not saying Christians out be unshaven 
rude people, but my impression was picket fence hypocrites and wanted no 
part of being fake. I'd rather wanted to stay me even if I was off, but at 
least I was what you saw. So anyway, perhaps he too has a wrong impression 
and thinks Christians are boring folks and if he becomes one, he'll too be 
boring lol.

Brad




At 04:02 PM 1/21/2006 -0700, you wrote:
>Mom has talked with him too.  But he doesn't want to listen.  I'm
>considering a couple of other options too.  But he likes my Oatmeal Raisin
>cookies.  We might have a talk over a cookie.  My sister is quite anti.
>There isn't an open door there right now at all.
>
>Thanks for your concern and prayers.
>
>Vicki
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:11 PM
>Subject: Re: [ECHURCH-USA] Man's man
>
>
> > Vicki,
> >
> > Glad to hear your mom has made that step. Has she tried talking to him
> > about it, or perhaps you and mom together? Sounds like your sister might
> > need to sit in  as well from what you said. Maybe you need to get some
>duct
> > tape and tape his lips together and have him sit on his hands and listen
>to
> > the plain facts of life *smile*. It is hard sometimes to gain respect from
> > a relative, let alone a child telling a parent what the score is. One
>thing
> > I know about Bear is he was witnessed to many times, the preacher as you
> > saw in the article was subject to a number of abuses going in there to
>talk
> > to him, and yet he was softened by that constant reminder and tangible
> > evidence someone cared.  Had the prisoner not taken that last step  of
> > making a bet with him, and no one did anything else to witness to Bear,
> > he'd likely not be where he is today. I pray your dad is afforded yet
> > another try, and another, and another until he sees the truth. And someone
> > with boldness and who might have a way to gain the respect needed to have
> > him listen crosses his path.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > At 01:32 PM 1/21/2006 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Great article Brad.  Thanks for sharing.  It really points up the fact
>that
> > >God knows how to reach each and every one of us.
> > >
> > >Dad is a very kind and giving person.  I'm not sure why this other part
>of
> > >him is hardened to the Gospel, but God knows.
> > >
> > >Vicki
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:21 PM
> > >Subject: [ECHURCH-USA] Man's man
> > >
> > >
> > > > Vicki,
> > > >
> > > > Check this link out. If God can turn Bear around, he can change
>anyone.
> > > > I've heard Bear speak and met him a couple times, he was good friends
>with
> > > > a friend of mine,  and the link here doesn't tell the half of his
>story.
> > >So
> > > > your dad is a cream puff compared to what this man endured, only he
>don't
> > > > know it yet lol. To tell you just how a Teddy Bear Richard became, my
> > >buddy
> > > > bought a little teddy bear on one of their motorcycle trips and put it
>in
> > > > his pack for him to find. My friend had walked up to him when he was
>at
> > >his
> > > > bike and found this six foot something mountain of a man  with tears
>down
> > > > his face over the act of kindness and I suppose so much a freeing
>opposite
> > > > compared to what he lived all those years.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.circuitridersdfw.org/page8.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Brad
> > > >
> > > >    Work is for people who don't know how to write songs
> > > >
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >    Get educated, not frustrated
> >

Brad

   Give Satan an inch & he'll be a ruler

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