Leland Torrence wrote:

>1)  How many hours have you logged?
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Have not checked. Got several characters that I wld have to add up. Will 
get back to you on this.

>2)  You should be ED of The Guild.
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Is an ED like a gym teacher?

>3)  Agree with most of your conference call rules, however most calls should be mandatory or excused as any other meeting (What about Robert's Rules?)and second should be uninterrupted as with a regular meeting
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Volunteer organization... not sure what mandatory or excused means in 
that context. In a few contexts mandatory is appropriate, as in a BOD 
member should attend monthly conference calls if that is the primary 
means of conducting business of the organization and it is clear that 
conference call attendance is in the by-laws. In that sense also 
Robert's Rules is pertinent to the intention of the meeting. I consider 
the use of conference calls is in a voice calibration... we get to hear 
each other and that is about it. Otherwise I feel that there are other & 
more relaxed ways to get business done. Personal rule of meetings -- 
never attend a meeting that you do not know what the outcome will be, or 
be prepared for no outcome or any outcome.

We have had problems w/ people eating and making crunching noises, or 
falling asleep and snoring loudly during conference calls. The problem 
w/ the snoring loudly is that you cannot get them to get off from the call.

>4)  Mobile phone etiquette:  Dan Briody:  Wireless World:
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I do not use the cell phone on the train, plane, subway or in a 
bookstore or library. I prefer not to use the cell phone in any store. I 
do not use the cell phone in any sit down eating establishment, tho 
Wendy's can be fair game at times. I do not like to use it while driving 
for anything more than the most parsed down of information as I have a 
tendency of getting lost too quickly and it takes too long to find my 
way to where I thought I was going. It also breaks windshields when my 
thoughts are too intense projected out across the earth. The Bluetooth 
earpiece is the 1st one ever that I have been able to actually hear 
while driving and not requiring me to hold the handless headset against 
my ear so that I can hear. I have given up caring if anyone can hear me 
when I am driving if they have called me. If I call them then I try to 
make sure that they can hear me. I avoid calling ppl when fire trucks 
are passing w/ sirens full blast.

There are a whole lot of times when I simply want to be left alone. 
Sitting on the LI Ferry watching the sunset w/ a cold beer is one of 
those times. I do not have a clue, meaning I have not counted, how many 
times I have had to urinate, and done so, rather than say anything to 
terminate the unending cell phone call that I have received. I'll keep 
that stat to a need to know basis.

I refuse to do e-mail everywhere. I relish cell free zones.

I absolutely hate that it will be silent for 5 hours then when I go to 
use it three people call me at once and it starts going beep beep in my 
ear in the middle of a conversation that I do want to have. It will then 
be silent for another 5 hours.

David hates that if I am a passenger and he is driving that I get in the 
vehicle then immediatly check my voicemail then go to answering messages 
without telling him where we are going. It also sucks that we all want 
to tell the person next to us in the vehicle what to say to the person 
on the other end of the line. We all seem to do this regardless.

The reason ppl speak louder on their cell phone is because they do not 
get good feedback -- bones in the ears sort of thing -- and they/we 
cannot hear them/ourselves as well as if they/we were just talking to 
someone in person. A lady on the train recently was going on loudly 
about her husbands gall stones and her bridge lessons -- she went to a 
bridge lesson while her husband got his gall stones taken care of. I was 
proud of the woman who came up to the loud woman and just as loudly told 
her that she was sorry to hear the news and tell her friend to please 
send flowers. Increasingly I want to not be passive to these intrusions 
but to get close and engaged in the conversation. Cripes, it is my life 
too, we are on the same planet, why not share?

Attachment to cell phone... back to the pervasive spread of collective 
psychosis. DO NOT use the technology to persecute your friends & family.

As to setting phone on table, w/ the Bluetooth I cannot tell who is 
calling w/out looking at the phone display. I might want to talk to 
someone, or I might not.

When I get into flow and forget the phone and it rings I tend to jump up.

When meeting with folks make a note of showing them that you are turning 
off your cell phone. It means 2 things, firstly that you want to talk to 
them w/out interruption and that you are conscious, and secondly that 
you expect them to turn off their phone as well. The message is that the 
person you are speaking one-on-one in person with is a priority to your 
use of time & attention. Then, again, there is plenty of one-on-one 
contacts where everyone is working and the cell phones you want to stay 
on. The convenience of taking care of a problem when it occurs to you 
and not having to manage 'remember this until later' is a precious one.

As to workforce policy on cell phones I believe we have vetted arguments 
pro & con previously on BP. I like to use tools that get stuff done. I 
do not like to use tools that make it harder to get stuff done.

Lastly, I recall a maxim that if the phone does not ring then you are 
out of business.

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