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Anyone care to assist this gentleman?



Penny Gray

Adaptive Technology Specialist

Bucks County community college

275 Swamp Rd

Rollins Center, Room 11

Newtown, PA 18940

215-968-8012

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This document was created with Dragon NaturallySpeaking voice dictation software.  Please disregard any unedited misrecognitions.



 Please consider the environment before you print this email

-----Original Message-----

From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chwalow, Judith

Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 12:32 PM

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: [Blindmath] Blind academics and Thomson Reuters



From: William Page [mailto:[log in to unmask]]

Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 7:19 AM

To: Maurer, Patricia

Subject: Blind academics and Thomson Reuters



As always, academics need to be published in academic journals.

Increasingly, journals are insisting articles are submitted online. 

The market leader is ScholarOne Manuscript, a division of Thomson 

Reuters and based in the US. Its websites have many buttons which are 

graphics with no hidden text beneath them; I believe no screen reader 

can read them. This limits the ability of blind academics to submit 

articles to at least this major player. This is unhelpful to their 

career development!



I know this because I am a blind publisher who signed up to use their 

service for our journals - and I cannot use it!



Thomson Reuters agree they should be doing something about this, but 

cannot see it being done for some time. Is there an association of 

blind academics who might add pressure to get this changed sooner 

rather than later? Below are my emails to Thomson Reuters about this; 

they are clearly not trying to be difficult, but say this would be an 

immense job for technical reasons.



You are welcome to forward this email to anyone you think appropriate.

Thanks for any help you can give.



Bill Page



--------------------------------------------

William Page

Beech Tree Publishing

- Science and Public Policy

- Research Evaluation

- Impact Assessment and Project Appraisal 10 Watford Close, 

Guildford, Surrey GU1 2EP, UK Telephone +44 1483 824871  Fax +44 1483 

567497 Email [log in to unmask] Website www.scipol.co.uk (including 

links to journal abstracts and full texts on the Ingenta Connect site)



-----Original Message-----

From: [log in to unmask]

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Sent: 18 June 2010 18:58

To: [log in to unmask]

Cc: [log in to unmask]

Subject: RE: MC and screen readers





Dear Bill,



Thank you for your note explaining the hardship you're experience using

ScholarOne Manuscripts with Hal.  While I have heard that certain users

with screen readers had various minor troubles using the system, I

haven't become aware that the system was impossible to use until you

mentioned it below.  From my understanding of screen readers, they rely

heavily (if not solely) on "alt text" describing images and buttons to

aid in navigation.



I also appreciate your willingness to help prioritize changes in the

sites you work with.  However, in the case of ScholarOne Manuscripts,

the system is built in such a way that all sites rely on the same code

base to work; each site, rather than being a unique deployment of unique

code, is simply a branch of the main code for all sites.  Any changes we

make to one site will and must affect all.  Adding "alt text" to each

image throughout the site is a large undertaking, and is further

complicated by the fact that the sites can be customized to display

different images depending on workflow, configuration, and language

settings.



While I don't believe that we can expect any improvement in 2010, as our

resources are completely deployed on other projects, I will speak with

my supervisors here and at Thomson Reuters to evaluate this for the

future.



Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have further questions.



Best wishes,

Tiffany



.................................................................

Tiffany Coker

Director, Product Management

ScholarOne

Healthcare & Science



Thomson Reuters



Phone: 434.964.4027

Fax: 434.817.2039



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thomsonreuters.com





-----Original Message-----

From: William Page [mailto:[log in to unmask]]

Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:26 AM

To: Coker, Tiffany (Hlthcr&Science)

Cc: Looney, Ryan (Hlthcr&Science)

Subject: RE: MC and screen readers



Hello Tiffany

Around December, Ryan Looney kindly contacted you on my behalf. We had

signed up for two of the journals I publish to be on Manuscript Central.

It took me time to realize that I could not really use MC because I am

blind and use a screen reader (called Hal). Although David Thomas knew I

was blind when he did the demonstration, it did not become apparent

until much later that this would be a problem.



I appreciate your situation, of making all MC sites compliant will be an

immense undertaking. However, I am currently signed up to a service

which I cannot use! So I wonder if we can reach a compromise: might it

be possible to make just our two sites compliant? By which I mean, that

a competent screen reader can read?



If it helps: I am actively involved as an editor as well as the

publisher of one, Science and Public Policy, so this would be my

priority. If the other, Impact Assessment and Project Appraisal, had to

wait, I could survive because I am not actively involved in editing that

one, only in publishing it.



If there is anything I can do to help with this, please tell me.



With thanks for any help  you can give me,



Best wishes



Bill Page



--------------------------------------------

William Page

Beech Tree Publishing

- Science and Public Policy

- Impact Assessment and Project Appraisal

10 Watford Close, Guildford, Surrey GU1 2EP, UK

Telephone +44 1483 824871  Fax +44 1483 567497

Email [log in to unmask]

Website www.scipol.co.uk (including links to journal abstracts and full

texts on the Ingenta Connect site)







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