While I agree that .PDF is not of much help, it is a beginning.
AS for tables if you know your screen reader's table commands they can be
extremely effective, but they are not the answer for everything.
73
N2DYN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: th-d7a


> Hi Butch.
>
> What roasts my buns is the number of people in the adaptive technology
> community who actually believe that putting something in PDF format is
> making it accessible.
>
> It is almost as annoying as the Adaptive Tech companies who think that
> putting their documentation in table format is actually helpful to the
> screen reader user.  Makes me wonder if they have a clue who their
> audience
> is.  While it is true that programs like JAWS have features built in to
> navigate tables, it is still a nasty and time consuming format to read,
> but
> the companies that manufacture access software just don't seem to get
> it.  Ok, I'll climb down off my soap box and go back to using the radio
> now.  Butch just struck a nerve with that post.
>
> 73, de Lou K2LKK
>
>
>
>
> At 08:57 AM 12/9/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>>Yes to both questions.  I'm now working on getting it to control the 2000.
>>I haven't tried it on packet yet either.  I'm waiting on a mp3 manual from
>>handihams, the pdf translation to text is almost worthless.  You got to
>>love pdf stuff. hi hi.
>>
>>73s
>>Butch Bussen
>>wa0vjr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Anthony Vece wrote:
>>
>> > Butch;
>> >
>> > Is that the radio with the built in TNC?
>> > It's an HT that let's you control the TS2000?
>> >
>> > 73 De Anthony W2AJV
>> > [log in to unmask]
>> > ECHOLINK NODE NUMBER: 74389
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 11:10 AM
>> > Subject: Re: th-d7a
>> >
>> >
>> >> I finally got the radio to work with the computer.  Seems I had the
>> >> wrong
>> >> software.  A friend did the same thing I did and clued me in.  There
>> >> is a
>> >> listing for the th-d7 and the th-d7a which if you look on the back
>> >> under
>> >> the battery has a g in parenthesis.  Once I got the right software, it
>> >> worked.  Also,k the cable is easy to make.  I can't solder that small,
>> >> but
>> >> if you can or if you can get sighted help, it is sub mini stereo pluc
>> >> and
>> >> a female db9.  Pin 2 goes to tip.  Pin 3 to ring.  5 goes to ground.
>> >> By
>> >> the way, the manual shows this backwards.
>> >> 73s
>> >> Butch Bussen
>> >> wa0vjr
>> >>
>> >>
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