Every person born on this planet has a disability, or something which
limits them,  For most, society (not self) is the biggest disabler, in
that stairs get in the way, curb cuts are non-existent, and attitudes
are patronizing...  Seen in this way, the healing stories of the Bible
(both Old and New Testaments)  strike a subversive blow for people with
disabilities    G-d is saying that society is wrong to place value on
physical attributes.  Because society does, He will heal the outcasts,
not society.

If you did not have the pain, Ken, would you mind the C.P?

ken barber wrote:

> 0kay, sorry if i spoke for every one. you do have the
>right to want to have a disability. it is something
>that i live with. i accept that, but, i do not like
>the pain and i do not chose to be in pain.
>
>--- Karin DiNardi <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
>>No all of us WOULD NOT take a cure, we ARE ABLE TO
>>LIVE NORMAL LIVES NOW!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Reply-To: "St. John's University Cerebral Palsy
>>>
>>>
>>List"
>>
>>
>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Re: Cure??
>>>Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:09:44 -0700
>>>
>>>well, yes, all of us would take a cure if it were
>>>avaible, but, cp is a injury not a virus, bacteria,
>>>
>>>
>>or
>>
>>
>>>even an infection.
>>>  there is not even a blip on the screen in the
>>>
>>>
>>way of
>>
>>
>>>a cure. if they can get the brain to regenerate
>>>
>>>
>>itself
>>>from the injury, then with theropy. of course it
>>would
>>
>>
>>>help stroke victims, accident victims, etc. just as
>>>much as cp. right now a cure for this is science
>>>fiction. next best thing though is to accept it and
>>>
>>>
>>do
>>
>>
>>>the best you can. once you do the best you can,
>>>
>>>
>>then
>>
>>
>>>you can be proud of yourself. that is not science
>>>fiction.
>>>
>>>--- kat <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>You know, I had the same reaction he did when I
>>>>
>>>>
>>saw
>>
>>
>>>>your one-lineer.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, it's good to accept yourself as disabled.
>>>>
>>>>However, I see myself as a person and a woman
>>>>
>>>>
>>first,
>>
>>
>>>>not disabled first.  Yeah
>>>>it's a part of who I am but it's not what I am.
>>>>
>>>>
>>I
>>
>>
>>>>refuse to let it define
>>>>me. and I refuse to let others define me as
>>>>
>>>>
>>such.
>>
>>
>>>>Kat
>>>>
>>>>On Wednesday 22 October 2003 09:53 pm, you
>>>>
>>>>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>Why not Brent? I would choose to remain
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>disabled.
>>
>>
>>>> It's part of the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>diversity of life. Ablism demands we all sound
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>>same, act the same,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>and get around the same    I had my eyes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>opened by
>>
>>
>>>>reading advocacy books..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Brent Edwards wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Karin DiNardi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>We don't want a cure, be proud of who you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>are!
>>
>>
>>>>>>Ummm...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I may be misunderstanding you. Actually I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>hope I
>>
>>
>>>>am. Of course CP is not a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>"disease" so there will never be a "cure",
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>but
>>
>>
>>>>you mean that if somehow
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>you _could_ become AB, you would choose to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>remain disabled??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>I accepted who I am and what my limitations
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>are
>>
>>
>>>>long ago, but to say "we
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>don't want a cure" has got to be one of the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>silliest statements I've ever
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>seen made here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Brent Edwards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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