<These vegetarians get their realms of discourse mixed up when they claim
that we should all be vegetarian because it takes more land to produce
meat (for human consumption) than it does to produce non-meat foods. >

this is especially  true only in the mono cropping condition not in a
complex ecosystem that can provide plants and animals foods from  the same
surface of land .
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<I'm putting together a list of the arguments for including meat in our
diets and I'd appreciate your ideas about the environmental costs of meat-
eating compared with veganism.  I'd be specially grateful for thoughts
which include consideration of the full "environmental load" - the water,
species loss, chemical wastes, energy costs etc.>

grain fed animals have a desastrous ecological foot print . the gain in
production is a very short lived one as the soil who support those animals
( in grains and overgrazed range ) get desertified in the proces ( loss in
biomass and diversity leading to erosion )



Please post them here or point to them on the web.  Here's a good one:

http://www.westonaprice.org/healthissues/ethicsmeat.html

Any others you know about?

I'll post the completed list on the web as a resource for us all.

Keith