thats true but not all radios scan for pl but you're right.
dan
At 10:17 AM 8/29/04, Anthony Vece wrote:
>Hi Dan;
>
>A blind ham is no different then a ham who is sighted.
>
>A ham who is sighted will also need to scan for PL tones and, if the
>repeater does not pass the pl tone then that will be that much less use that
>the repeater owner's repeater will get.
>
>I mean let's be practical here.
>
>If we want to be treated with the same respect that everyone else is treated
>with then, I think we need to stop classifying ourselves and just go with
>the flow.
>
>Their are always work arounds and, no matter what segment of the population
>we are in, we will always need to make adjustments.
>
>73 De Anthony W2AJV
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "dan kysor" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 12:31 PM
>Subject: Re: PL Required for Repeater Coordination
>
>
> > well now days with the plethera of repeaters in high density populations,
> > its necessary, unfortunately.
> > For example, when coordinating my 440 repeater, we discovered that a high
> > level frequency on a frequency i was trying for was so loud that even a pl
> > wouldn't have solved the problem and the repeater was 200 miles away but
> > it
> > is on a 4000 foot peak.
> > on the other hand, 90 mile frequency sharring is very common and really
> > only can be accomplished by pl.  i personally wish and long for no pl
> > because for a blind person, its much easier to tune around the band
> > especially if your traveling but reality is reality.
> > finally, saying all of this, coordinating councils are typically not very
> > strong when push comes to shove.
> > the fcc in many instances, disregards these councils with respect to
> > disputes.  I will always defer to a council up to a point.
> > dan w. kysor n6ikc
> > At 12:21 PM 8/28/04, Mike Duke, K5XU wrote:
> >>This is from this week's ARRL Letter.
> >>
> >>What do you think of it?
> >>
> >>K5XU
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>==>REPEATER COORDINATOR OKAYS MANDATORY REPEATER TONE POLICY
> >>
> >>The Southeast Repeater Association (SERA) Board of Directors has approved
> >>an "all tone, all the time" policy for the repeaters SERA coordinates.
> >>SERA provides voluntary frequency coordination for amateur repeaters in
> >>Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi
> >>and parts of Virginia and West Virginia. The Board okayed a motion to
> >>amend its coordination policy and guidelines to require CTCSS or DCS
> >>receive and transmit tones on all new FM voice repeaters. Existing voice
> >>repeaters will have until July 1, 2006, to comply. The SERA Repeater
> >>Journal reported the move in its August issue. Repeater Journal Editor
> >>Gary Pearce, KN4AQ, said a need to relieve interference complaints led to
> >>the Board's decision.
> >>
> >>"The point is to stop the ongoing complaints and skirmishes between
> >>co-channel neighbors running carrier-access repeaters," Pearce explained.
> >>"The vote was unanimous, but SERA recognizes that tone isn't universally
> >>popular nor is it a cure-all. And it causes new problems, particularly for
> >>travelers."
> >>
> >>South Carolina ARRL member Laurie Sansbury Jr, KV4C, would agree with
> >>Pearce on that score. He also has taken issue with SERA's new policy and
> >>with Pearce's Repeater Journal "SquelchTale" editorial, in which Pearce
> >>said he had "little sympathy for the ham whose radio doesn't have a tone
> >>encoder" and "Radios are cheap today."
> >>
> >>"Not for the senior on a fixed income they're not," Sansbury retorted in
> >>an e-mail copied to ARRL. "Not for a teenager--the future of ham
> >>radio--they're not."
> >>
> >>ARRL South Carolina Technical Coordinator Marc Tarplee, N4UFP, said he
> >>believes an important consideration of SERA's tone policy is its potential
> >>effect on emergency operations. "The Amateur Radio Service is expected to
> >>provide emergency communications," Tarplee said. "How does broad CTCSS
> >>implementation enhance or hinder our ability to deliver those
> >>communications?"
> >>
> >>SERA has no plans to automatically decoordinate repeaters that continue to
> >>operate without tones, but "SERA would not entertain an interference
> >>complaint from the owner of any repeater who chooses to remain carrier
> >>access," the Repeater Journal said. If a carrier-access repeater owner
> >>getting co-channel interference complains to the FCC, SERA would tell the
> >>Commission that the complaining repeater's owner was opting to operate
> >>outside the conditions of coordination. "SERA would expect that to be
> >>interpreted as a 'no,'" the Repeater Journal report said.
> >>
> >>"If a repeater owner wants to complain about interference, they'll have to
> >>incorporate tone first," Pearce said.
> >>
> >>
> >>Mike Duke, K5XU
> >>American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs
> >