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Pat Ferguson <[log in to unmask]>
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Echurch-USA The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 1 Sep 2004 18:21:23 -0500
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Kathy,

You always have our love and prayers no matter what! I pray that Chris
never gets violent with Greg, and you. I pray he never touches you guys or
anyone in your family in a violent way.

I agree with Brad's words of wisdom and also what Phil said.

Many people don't believe in spanking, but we do, but it has to start at a
very young age. I do remember my Mom slapping my sister across the face
when she was about 16. I didn't think that was cool at all. Mom slapped me
across the face twice when I was 20. That was why I left home.

Physical punishment certainly has it's places, and it sounds like you and
Greg definitely know when it is appropriate and when it isn't. It scares me
to think what Chris has tried to do to you guys.

I'm never going to stop praying!

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
At 02:36 PM 9/1/04, you wrote:
>Brad,
>AS you said, we are raising adults.  I agree.  How many of the adults
>that you disagree with do you take out physically.  Chris needs to learn
>that there are more ways of dealing with frustration than just the
>physical one that is so easily at hand.  He needs to learn to use his
>words and accept life when it doesn't go his way.  Children duke it out.
>Adults need to learn to handle things differently.  How can we tell him
>this with words and then deck him because he is being disrespectful?  .
>Sure, we'd both like to thrash him.  When he was a child, we did use
>physical discipline and I don't appologize for it, but chris is a little
>old to put over our knee.  In fact, I think that the fact that Greg won't
>  get physical with him, angers Chris more than anything because Chris
>knows that Greg is demoninstrating self control.  When Chris was younger,
>Chris could push Greg's hot button and Greg would eventually get physical
>and at least wrestle him into his place, but that just  increased the
>physical confrontations and words  got lost in what was accomplished by
>the physical.  When I was a child I thought like a child, I reasoned like
>a child, but now that I'm grown, I've laid such childish ways aside.
>Chris needs to learn to lay his childish ways aside and enter into the
>adult world on its terms, not his.
>         Don't worry, what you say doesn't upset me.  I appreciate the
>feedback.  I'm more frustrated than anybody on this list because I'm
>living this hell.  I came to you guys for prayer and advice and that's
>what I'm getting.  Don't stop!  If you did, I'd feel ignored!
>Kathy
>
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