Brad,
I'm praying for your neighbors and for you. I know what situational
depression is like. Not cool.
I'm praying for those kids, too. Oh, everyone just needs a big squeeze
about now. <squeeze>
Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
At 06:59 AM 9/16/04, you wrote:
>Carol,
>
>No, we can't save or rather be used by God to help bring salvation to all
>such folks. Having gone through what I refer to as "situational depression"
>after I realized my sight was headed south, and having difficulties with
>marriage and etc. I too went throuigh these thoughts. I considered in my
>mind how it might be done to not jepardize insurance money, a blind
>accident, and when all sorted out, I figured it wasn't worth that. Nothing
>is worth losing one's life over. It is then when I turned things around. I
>guess it is at this point where some continue the downwrd spiral. Plus my
>wife had a close call with it, and also has had severe bouts with these
>thoughts in a bottom of seasons of depression.
>
>Brad
>
>
>
>
>At 09:10 AM 9/16/2004 +0100, Carol Pearson wrote:
> >Brad, I entered with you into some of those feelings and am so sorry
> >about this. Only last week I shared at length with a Christian friend
> >(much younger than myself) who has "a mental illness problem" and she'd
> >tried three times that week to commit suicide. I asked her what was
> >going on in her mind and whether she had planned it. She told me she'd
> >planned the first two episodes down to the last minute . . . went ahead
> >. . . alone. It's a miracle she didn't die because she took enough
> >stuff for both of us. Then the third she didn't even plan . . . it just
> >happened. Now she can't even understand herself but I know God
> >understands where she was and why it happened. When I see that kind of
> >progression and know Satan's influence in a life, it makes me very cross
> >indeed! On Monday evening I spoke to another lady who wanted to commit
> >suicide. Perhaps she was prevented that day by the kind intervention of
> >God! He sent a friend along who (on seeing the situation) stayed with
> >her all day!
> >
> >Yes, we need to look out for these hurting people and bring them to
> >Jesus for His healing. Brad, don't beat yourself up though because, if
> >Jesus had wanted you to be involved in this person's life, He would have
> >told you and I know you would have responded! We can't (sadly) save
> >everyone, but we can pluck some from the fire. Let's all pray He shows
> >us those we can help and then get on and do it!
> >
> >
> >--
> >Carol
> >[log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
> >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Vicki and The
> >Rors
> >Sent: 16 September 2004 01:44
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Still rolling it around for all it means
> >
> >
> >Brad,
> >
> >I'm so sorry. My cousin back when I was a teen committed suicide, so I
> >have some personal knowledge too of some of the feelings. I cried with
> >you. It's a tragic thing. Will pray for those kids, and you all too.
> >
> >Vicki
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Brad Dunse" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 5:30 PM
> >Subject: Still rolling it around for all it means
> >
> >
> > > Pamela Nelson. Ever heard of her?
> > >
> > > Neither have I until two days ago. In fact I've never met her, never
> >saw=20
> > > her, or even spoken to her. Yet I have yet to still think of the
> > > total=20 impact she has had on my thoughts as I sort out in my mind
> > > what she has=20 given me to think about. To my knowledge she's never
> > > accomplished
> >anything=
> > > =20
> > > of public notoriety in life, as most of us living our lives day in and
> >day=
> > > =20
> > > out. In fact the healthcare trade proved to be the chosen means of
> > > making
> >a=
> > > =20
> > > living and not a great communicator, author, or other such
> > > profession.=20 Young woman of late 30's early forties, married, two
> > > teen age kids,=20 residing in the same town as I, in fact only four
> > > doors down from me.=20 Pamela decided to give many much to think on
> > > around noon Monday when
> >she=20
> > > pulled the trigger and ended her life. This, the second suicide in
> > > our=20 little town in the past week where yet another woman of 44
> > > years young,=20 married and kids to leave behind wondering why. My
> > > wife told me around
> >3:30=
> > > =20
> > > or so there was four police cars, an ambulance and other cars down
> > > the=20 street, the two kids were out in the yard crying. One of my
> > > wife's=20 customer's dad lives next to the Nelsons and was woken out
> > > of a sleep=20 around noon from his third shift night time sleep. I
> > > heard that Mr.
> >Nelson=
> > > =20
> > > was yet on his way home from work for the day. My suspicions and fears
> >of=20
> > > what happened were confirmed last night at church music practice. No
> >doubt=
> > > =20
> > > it was the children who walked in the house to say "Hi mom we're home!
> >Can=
> > > =20
> > > I go to the skate park or over to Jimmy's?" and instead found their
> >lives=20
> > > irreversibly changed. One of the children, Luke 16 years old, a young
> >man=20
> > > my son skateboards, bikes and eats lunch with at school everyday, and
> >is=20
> > > somewhere between acquaintance and friend of my son, and his younger
> >sister=
> > > =20
> > > of 14 must be going through one of the most difficult times of their
> >lives.=
> > > =20
> > > Please pray for this family. I couldn't help but be extremely bothered
> >by=20
> > > this inside. Suicide has always been sensitive to me. It is such a
> >waste=20
> > > and the thoughts which lead up to it, a lie from the pit of hell.
> >Nothing=20
> > > is worth ending one's own life. No job, no spouse, no money problem,
> > > no=20 nothing. I also couldn't help feeling so useless in life. Week
> > > by week
> >we=20
> > > do our bit in church, play music, sing to God and encourage others to
> >enter=
> > > =20
> > > into worship, take our time to practice together and at home apart
> > > from
> >a=20
> > > group, go to our jobs, spend some time with our own family, go
> > > shopping
> >and=
> > > =20
> > > the errands we need to do to make life roll along. And all the while
> >four=20
> > > doors down a young woman suffers so much from depression and lies
> > > being=20 told her, and remains separated from God, missing out on the
> > > peace and=20 comfort and help we as Christians so much rely on to get
> > > us through
> >life=20
> > > these days, and I am totally oblivious to her suffering. If perhaps
> >someone=
> > > =20
> > > were to have told her, have shown her that there is hope no matter
> > > what=20 things look like right now. If she was guided and encouraged
> > > to find
> >that=20
> > > victory we enjoy daily, perhaps today she'd be making supper for her
> >family=
> > > =20
> > > saying "OK, kids go get your dad, and wash your hands we're gonna
> >eat."=20
> > > and I'd not be writing this. I have yet to have this sink in to its
> >full=20
> > > capacity as I'm still stunned and bothered by the reality of it. Sort
> >of=20
> > > ironic isn't it? We take part in helping those in the area, the city,
> >the=20
> > > county, the state , the USA, the world and someone four doors down
> >shows=20
> > > the real perspective yet there's nothing you can do now to change
> >how=20
> > > that perspective was brought to you and they have forfeited the
> >ultimate=20
> > > gift=85 life.
> > >
> > > Please pray for this family.
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > > Start spreading the news! HTTP://WWW.RIVERCITIESCONNECTION.COM is=
> >
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