Brad, I entered with you into some of those feelings and am so sorry
about this.  Only last week I shared at length with a Christian friend
(much younger than myself) who has "a mental illness problem" and she'd
tried three times that week to commit suicide.  I asked her what was
going on in her mind and whether she had planned it.  She told me she'd
planned the first two episodes down to the last minute . . . went ahead
. . . alone.  It's a miracle she didn't die because she took enough
stuff for both of us.  Then the third she didn't even plan . . . it just
happened.  Now she can't even understand herself but I know God
understands where she was and why it happened.  When I see that kind of
progression and know Satan's influence in a life, it makes me very cross
indeed!  On Monday evening I spoke to another lady who wanted to commit
suicide.  Perhaps she was prevented that day by the kind intervention of
God!  He sent a friend along who (on seeing the situation) stayed with
her all day!

Yes, we need to look out for these hurting people and bring them to
Jesus for His healing.  Brad, don't beat yourself up though because, if
Jesus had wanted you to be involved in this person's life, He would have
told you and I know you would have responded!  We can't (sadly) save
everyone, but we can pluck some from the fire.  Let's all pray He shows
us those we can help and then get on and do it!


--
Carol
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From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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Sent: 16 September 2004 01:44
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Subject: Re: Still rolling it around for all it means


Brad,

I'm so sorry.  My cousin back when I was a teen committed suicide, so I
have some personal knowledge too of some of the feelings.  I cried with
you. It's a tragic thing.  Will pray for those kids, and you all too.

Vicki



----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Dunse" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 5:30 PM
Subject: Still rolling it around for all it means


> Pamela Nelson. Ever heard of her?
>
> Neither have I until two days ago. In fact I've never met her, never
saw=20
> her, or even spoken to her. Yet I have yet to still think of the
> total=20 impact she has had on my thoughts as I sort out in my mind
> what she has=20 given me to think about. To my knowledge she's never
> accomplished
anything=
> =20
> of public notoriety in life, as most of us living our lives day in and
day=
> =20
> out. In fact the healthcare trade proved to be the chosen means of
> making
a=
> =20
> living and not a great communicator, author, or other such
> profession.=20 Young woman of late 30's early forties, married, two
> teen age kids,=20 residing in the same town as I, in fact only four
> doors down from me.=20 Pamela decided to give many much to think on
> around noon Monday when
she=20
> pulled the trigger and ended her life. This, the second suicide in
> our=20 little town in the past week where yet another woman of 44
> years young,=20 married and kids to leave behind wondering why. My
> wife told me around
3:30=
> =20
> or so there was four police cars, an ambulance and other cars down
> the=20 street, the two kids were out in the yard crying. One of my
> wife's=20 customer's dad lives next to the Nelsons and was woken out
> of a sleep=20 around noon from his third shift night time sleep. I
> heard that Mr.
Nelson=
> =20
> was yet on his way home from work for the day. My suspicions and fears
of=20
> what happened were confirmed last night at church music practice. No
doubt=
> =20
> it was the children who walked in the house to say "Hi mom we're home!
Can=
> =20
> I go to the skate park or over to Jimmy's?" and instead found their
lives=20
> irreversibly changed. One of the children, Luke 16 years old, a young
man=20
> my son skateboards, bikes and eats lunch with at school everyday, and
is=20
> somewhere between acquaintance and friend of my son, and his younger
sister=
> =20
> of 14 must be going through one of the most difficult times of their
lives.=
> =20
> Please pray for this family. I couldn't help but be extremely bothered
by=20
> this inside. Suicide has always been sensitive to me. It is such a
waste=20
> and the thoughts which lead up to it, a lie from the pit of hell.
Nothing=20
> is worth ending one's own life. No job, no spouse, no money problem,
> no=20 nothing. I also couldn't help feeling so useless in life. Week
> by week
we=20
> do our bit in church, play music, sing to God and encourage others to
enter=
> =20
> into worship, take our time to practice together and at home apart
> from
a=20
> group, go to our jobs, spend some time with our own family, go
> shopping
and=
> =20
> the errands we need to do to make life roll along. And all the while
four=20
> doors down a young woman suffers so much from depression and lies
> being=20 told her, and remains separated from God, missing out on the
> peace and=20 comfort and help we as Christians so much rely on to get
> us through
life=20
> these days, and I am totally oblivious to her suffering. If perhaps
someone=
> =20
> were to have told her, have shown her that there is hope no matter
> what=20 things look like right now. If she was guided and encouraged
> to find
that=20
> victory we enjoy daily, perhaps today she'd be making supper for her
family=
> =20
> saying "OK, kids go get your dad, and  wash your hands we're gonna
eat."=20
> and I'd not be writing this. I have yet to have this sink in to its
full=20
> capacity as I'm still stunned and bothered by the reality of it. Sort
of=20
> ironic isn't it? We take part in helping those in the area, the city,
the=20
> county, the state , the USA, the world and someone four doors down
shows=20
> the real perspective yet there's nothing you can do now to   change
how=20
> that perspective was brought to you and they have forfeited the
ultimate=20
> gift=85 life.
>
> Please pray for this family.
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
>
> Brad
>
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