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Brad Dunse <[log in to unmask]>
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Echurch-USA The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:14:38 -0500
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Vicki,

I had a cousin that also shot himself. Couldn't deal with facing blindness
in his future due to RP setting in. That is probably my sensitivity. That
and my brother telling me once he once had a shotgon stuck  in his mouth
but just hadn't pulled the trigger. And my wife in her depression a decade
ago or so looked in th mirror and conidered ODing on pills.

Lelia. That had to be horrible. Sorry you had to live through such.

Although I feel a great sense of loss, it is not my loss in which I feel
but the kids and family and the husband too. Mine is from a point of hating
to see anyone be so low  to commit such an act, but also wishing someone
could tell them sonvincingly there is hope. Yet I know in these states they
cannot see that at all.

Brad





Vicki and The Rors wrote:
>Brad,
>
>I'm so sorry.  My cousin back when I was a teen committed suicide, so I have
>some personal knowledge too of some of the feelings.  I cried with you. It's
>a tragic thing.  Will pray for those kids, and you all too.
>
>Vicki
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brad Dunse" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 5:30 PM
>Subject: Still rolling it around for all it means
>
>
> > Pamela Nelson. Ever heard of her?
> >
> > Neither have I until two days ago. In fact I've never met her, never
>saw=20
> > her, or even spoken to her. Yet I have yet to still think of the total=20
> > impact she has had on my thoughts as I sort out in my mind what she has=20
> > given me to think about. To my knowledge she's never accomplished
>anything=
> > =20
> > of public notoriety in life, as most of us living our lives day in and
>day=
> > =20
> > out. In fact the healthcare trade proved to be the chosen means of making
>a=
> > =20
> > living and not a great communicator, author, or other such profession.=20
> > Young woman of late 30's early forties, married, two teen age kids,=20
> > residing in the same town as I, in fact only four doors down from me.=20
> > Pamela decided to give many much to think on around noon Monday when
>she=20
> > pulled the trigger and ended her life. This, the second suicide in our=20
> > little town in the past week where yet another woman of 44 years young,=20
> > married and kids to leave behind wondering why. My wife told me around
>3:30=
> > =20
> > or so there was four police cars, an ambulance and other cars down the=20
> > street, the two kids were out in the yard crying. One of my wife's=20
> > customer's dad lives next to the Nelsons and was woken out of a sleep=20
> > around noon from his third shift night time sleep. I heard that Mr.
>Nelson=
> > =20
> > was yet on his way home from work for the day. My suspicions and fears
>of=20
> > what happened were confirmed last night at church music practice. No
>doubt=
> > =20
> > it was the children who walked in the house to say "Hi mom we're home!
>Can=
> > =20
> > I go to the skate park or over to Jimmy's?" and instead found their
>lives=20
> > irreversibly changed. One of the children, Luke 16 years old, a young
>man=20
> > my son skateboards, bikes and eats lunch with at school everyday, and
>is=20
> > somewhere between acquaintance and friend of my son, and his younger
>sister=
> > =20
> > of 14 must be going through one of the most difficult times of their
>lives.=
> > =20
> > Please pray for this family. I couldn't help but be extremely bothered
>by=20
> > this inside. Suicide has always been sensitive to me. It is such a
>waste=20
> > and the thoughts which lead up to it, a lie from the pit of hell.
>Nothing=20
> > is worth ending one's own life. No job, no spouse, no money problem, no=20
> > nothing. I also couldn't help feeling so useless in life. Week by week
>we=20
> > do our bit in church, play music, sing to God and encourage others to
>enter=
> > =20
> > into worship, take our time to practice together and at home apart from
>a=20
> > group, go to our jobs, spend some time with our own family, go shopping
>and=
> > =20
> > the errands we need to do to make life roll along. And all the while
>four=20
> > doors down a young woman suffers so much from depression and lies being=20
> > told her, and remains separated from God, missing out on the peace and=20
> > comfort and help we as Christians so much rely on to get us through
>life=20
> > these days, and I am totally oblivious to her suffering. If perhaps
>someone=
> > =20
> > were to have told her, have shown her that there is hope no matter what=20
> > things look like right now. If she was guided and encouraged to find
>that=20
> > victory we enjoy daily, perhaps today she'd be making supper for her
>family=
> > =20
> > saying "OK, kids go get your dad, and  wash your hands we're gonna
>eat."=20
> > and I'd not be writing this. I have yet to have this sink in to its
>full=20
> > capacity as I'm still stunned and bothered by the reality of it. Sort
>of=20
> > ironic isn't it? We take part in helping those in the area, the city,
>the=20
> > county, the state , the USA, the world and someone four doors down
>shows=20
> > the real perspective yet there's nothing you can do now to   change how=20
> > that perspective was brought to you and they have forfeited the
>ultimate=20
> > gift=85 life.
> >
> > Please pray for this family.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >    Start spreading the news! HTTP://WWW.RIVERCITIESCONNECTION.COM is=
> >  offering
> >   Northwest Wisconsin and Greater Twin Cities FREE classified
>advertising!!
> >

Brad

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