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I picked these up from a couple of websites, so they are not my original
thoughts.  However, I do agree with the comments.

Suicide is, in effect, self-murder. The unfortunate thing about it is that
the one who commits it cannot repent of it. The damage is permanently done.
We can see in the Bible that murderers have been redeemed (Moses, David,
etc.), but they had opportunities to confess their sins and repent. With
suicide, the person does not.  But that does not mean the person is
lost.  Jesus bore all that person's sins, including suicide. If Jesus bore
that person's sins on the cross 2000 years ago, and if suicide was not
covered, then the Christian was never saved in the first place and the one
sin of suicide is able to undo the entire work of the cross of Christ. This
cannot be. Jesus either saves completely or he does not.

I have no doubt that Historical Christian figures with religious authority
(with a well meaning intent) sought to preserve the value and sanctity of
human life by putting the fear of God into everyone  unlearned and ignorant
to the value of human life, by scaring them with the wrath of God and loss
of salvation.   This was accomplished  by the law that anyone not an
ordained minister was permitted by the Church to read the Bible.

Committing suicide is a godless concept that denies the sovereignty of God
who truly and exclusively decides who shall live and who shall die.

Going to hell for committing suicide is Biblically unfounded and is a
contradiction to its salvation message.

Helen







Earlier, Phil Scovell wrote:
>Since 9 out of every 10 people I pray with are either suicidal, or have
>been, or have actually attempted it, the question of Christians and suicide
>comes up often.  Of course, some Christians believe for a Christian to
>commit suicide, they would be committing the unpardonable sin so that means
>they can't go to Heaven if they take their own life.  Suicide is not the
>unpardonable sin so that rules that out.  If you don't know what the
>unpardonable sin is, we'll start up another thread to cover that issue.
>Some Christians just believe, for some reason, to take your own life is
>wrong and therefore, you wouldn't go to Heaven.  Still, other Christians
>believe you would go to Heaven simply because you are born again.  So,
>what's the truth and the Biblical evidence of what you believe?  This isn't
>a trick question, by the way, and I am very serious.  As I said, I talk with
>people all the time who face suicidal tendencies and most have never told a
>living soul except me.  Why me?  Because I know what being suicidal is like.
>I know what the demonic voices sound like and what they say when they try to
>get you to take your own life.  So, again, this is not a trick question nor
>am I trying to get you to agree with me.  I would just like to hear other
>ideas on the subject.
>
>Phil.

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