Hi Steve.

It depends upon the version of JFW being run.  I find Norton to be much
more responsive with the newer versions of JAWS (version 4.02  and newer),
but is still not good with Window-Eyes.  Anyway, I am typically seeing 5 or
6 spyware programs every time I scan with Ad Aware at home, and I see a lot
more than that at work.

73, de Lou K2LKK



At 09:11 PM 7/13/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>Agreed, Lou, except that Norton's Personal Firewall I find to be quite useable
>with JFW.
>
>Personally, I see more advantages in a software firewall, which can be updated
>if there are new exploits more easily than a hardware firewall.  But, I do
>have both, as my DLink router has a firewall.
>
>I certainly agree that you can't have enough protection these days.  I have
>not had much spyware, even with my dsl and cable connections prior to that.  I
>think a lot of that is due to caution on programs I install; having an
>anti-virus program with a spyware detection capability, and utilizing a
>firewall.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 8:03 PM
>Subject: Re: ROUTERS
>
>
>Hi Steve.
>
>It really depends upon which virus invaded the system.  Some of the more
>recent Internet worms use a technique of polling IP addresses until an
>unguarded one is found and then the Internet worm infects that machine.  In
>worms or viruses of this type, a hardware firewall can give some additional
>protection above and beyond what the antivirus software does.
>
>Software firewalls have their advantages too.  A software firewall, in many
>cases can be set up to block unauthorized traffic in both directions,
>thereby limiting the effectiveness of spyware.  That is not to say that
>they are a replacement for programs like Ad Aware or Spybot, because your
>system can still operate very poorly with spyware attempting to run in your
>system, but a software firewall can at least guard your privacy, provided
>that it is used correctly.
>
>Software firewalls are not without their drawbacks, though.  They must, by
>the nature of what they do, constantly utilize processor time which will
>slow down your system a little, especially where the Internet and e-mail
>are concerned.  It is an acceptable tradeoff under most circumstances, but
>a hardware firewall does not use any processor time, and has less of an
>effect on Internet transfer rates.
>
>I run a software firewall here, and have found performance to be fairly
>good on a 1.7 Ghz AMD Athelon processor.  The firewall that I am using is
>the one that is built into Norton Internet Security.  It is not very
>"adaptive technology friendly" though, especially for Window-Eyes
>users.  That brings up the second drawback to software firewalls--they are,
>in many cases, unfriendly to screen readers.
>
>So, while I think that software firewalls are a viable alternative, and
>incidentally, the only alternative for dial up users, I don't think the
>computer store was entirely wrong in what they told Walt.  But regarding
>antivirus software, you really need both a firewall and an antivirus
>program these days, and if you are on the Internet very much, you had
>better find something to scan for spyware, too.  It is so prevalent on the
>Internet that if you aren't scanning for it regularly, the chances that you
>have some and your privacy is being compromised is 100%.
>
>73, de Lou K2LKK
>
>
>
>
>
>At 11:50 AM 7/13/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> >Well, the computer store is trying to generate extra money for itself.
> >
> >A router is a device which allows you to share a connection on more than one
> >computer.  In most cases, you install the router between your cable or DSL
> >modem and the router then routes the packets to the appropriate computer.
> >This allows you to connect up to 253 computers on a home network with most
> >routers.  Since you only have one computer, you don't need a router.
> >
> >As an additional protection, routers have built-in hardware firewalls.  But,
> >it's just one more thing to configure, in my opinion.  You can get similar
> >protection with a good software firewall.  Second, a firewall might keep
> >hackers from getting into your PC, but it affords no virus protection.
> >
> >So, go figure!  My only guess is in the best case, the computer store
> >salesperson is uninformed; or in the worst case, they are trying to getmore
> >bucks from you and have given you erroneous advice in order to get it.
> >
> >Steve, K8SP
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Walt Sebastian" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:48 AM
> >Subject: ROUTERS
> >
> >
> >Hi Guys,
> >I seem to have a virus.  I called the computer store and was asked if a
> >router was installed.  I guess one will be now.  My question is, what is a
> >router and what does it do for you.  At the moment, I have one computer, if
> >that makes any difference.  73.
> >
> >Walt
> >WA4QXT
> >New London CT
> >[log in to unmask]
>
>Louis Kim Kline
>A.R.S. K2LKK
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Louis Kim Kline
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