I know what you mean, Carol, but I was meaning more in the manner of people
equating loss of control with losing their minds, that kind of thing.  "If I
ask the Holy Spirit to take control I'll go running down the street
screaming!", silly stuff that is not based in reality but based on a fear of
the unknown or ignorance of the truth.

Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "carol pearson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: Please pray for our Church this Sunday.


> The fact is, though, dear Brother, that we have to allow ourselves to lose
> control and let Him take control if we're every going to live and move in
> the Spirit!
>
>
> --
> Carol
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ariel" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 9:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Please pray for our Church this Sunday.
>
>
> > I don't think the fear is of the Holy Spirit, but of anything new or
> > different and of a loss of control.  There has been so much made of
people
> > babbling incoherently or barking and laughing uncontrollably and all of
> that
> > being blamed as a sign of the Holy Spirit that I think quote normal
> unquote
> > people are not thrilled about the prospect of losing control to that
sort
> of
> > thing.  Any idea of change or lack of control is a threatening prospect.
> > The thing to keep in mind, and perhaps emphasize to others, is that
being
> > controlled by the Holy Spirit has nothing to do with bizarre behavior.
> > Rather, it is the difference between an infant struggling to walk on his
> own
> > power and suddenly being snatched up in his loving Father's arms.
> >
> > Paul
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "carol pearson" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: Please pray for our Church this Sunday.
> >
> >
> > > Hi Kathy,
> > >
> > > Well, now, you've really started something, perhaps!
> > >
> > > Sometimes personal testimony can really break down barriers here.  So
> many
> > > are fearful of anything to do with "spirit", even when we know He is
> Holy
> > > and lovely and gentle and much, much more!
> > >
> > > Do share with us more about the situation if you'd like to.  I'd
> certainly
> > > like to know more about what Greg said on that day.
> > >
> > > Oh, I know over here that some of the wonderful times happen on the
> "Holy
> > > Spirit" day, but by no means everyone is filled and many are afraid
> and/or
> > > sceptical.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carol
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 3:54 PM
> > > Subject: Please pray for our Church this Sunday.
> > >
> > >
> > > > HI Guys,
> > > > I have a sort of prayer request, but I'm not quite sure how to put
it.
> > > > I'm sure that Carol and Phil will be great at sorting me out though,
> > > > especially Carol, since I know that she is familiar with ALPHA.
> > > > We've been doing ALPHA at our church since September, for our
> > > > congregation, and it has been going over pretty well. The talks that
> had
> > > > our people the most nervice were the ones on the holy spirit. It's
not
> > > > that our people don't believe in the holy spirit, it's that they are
> > more
> > > > comfortable talking about it, than inviting Him to really come among
> > > > them. After the talks, there was some prayer, but there was more
fear
> > > > than anything else. Everyone seemed relieved that it was over. How
> sad.
> > I
> > > > wasn't there, but I heard about it from Greg later. Anyway, this
> Sunday
> > > > they will be hearing about healing. Afterwords, we are planning on
> > > > conducting a healing service, a first for our people. I just know
that
> > > > our people could do so much in god's hands if they would just let go
> and
> > > > let God. Maybe what I am asking is that the spirit of fear would be
> > > > banished and that faith, and letting go, would really begin.
> > > > I'd like it if sometime we would talk about healing here too. I
don't
> > > > mean theory, or what the bible says, but personal experience. Maybe
> I'll
> > > > be brave and start the questioning, but not now.
> > > > In Him,
> > > > Kathy
> > > >
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