Sorry about those crazy looking links.  that isn't how they appeared in the
original.
When I copied the article into my clipmate, and then copied it into my
mailer, they didn't look like this.  I apologize.  Skip over them to the
next print, please.

Helen

At 09:32 AM 12/23/03 -0500, you wrote:
>Lelia, as a nation, the United States of America is as any other nation of
>peoples, except that we were founded on Christian/Biblical principles.  It
>is sad that the anti-christ spirits who are in postions of power are slowly
>trying to stamp out those principles.  No, the U.S. is not the "new
>Israel", and there is no "old Israel" according to the flesh as there was
>under the Old Covenant.  The people of God, the Church, consisting of both
>Jews and gentiles, are the Israel of God.
>It is an interesting and enlightening study which I don't have time to go
>into now, and there are scholars here who could better help you understand.
>Here is an excerpt from a website that explains it briefly:
>
>
>"They are not all Israel, which are of Israel: neither, because they are
>the seed of Abraham are they all children: but in Isaac shall thy seed be
>called. That is, they which are the children of the flesh, these are not
>the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the
>seed!"
>(<http://goon.stg.brown.edu/cgi-bin/pbcgi?sourceform=pbeasy.shtml&maxhits=50&searchtype=fetch&version=kjv-g&searchstring=Rom+9%3a6-8>Rom
>9:6-8). "The flesh profiteth nothing, it is the Spirit that quickeneth"
>(<http://goon.stg.brown.edu/cgi-bin/pbcgi?sourceform=pbeasy.shtml&maxhits=50&searchtype=fetch&version=kjv-g&searchstring=John+6%3a63>John
>6:63). "The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for
>they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are
>spiritually discerned"
>(<http://goon.stg.brown.edu/cgi-bin/pbcgi?sourceform=pbeasy.shtml&maxhits=50&searchtype=fetch&version=kjv-g&searchstring=1Cor+2%3a14>1Cor
>2:14).
>
>The plain Word of God is not to be argued with. These verses tell us that
>the natural descendants of Abraham after the flesh are not the children of
>God. Therefore 20th century Israel is not the chosen nation of God; they
>cannot be, for they have rejected Christ as their Messiah just like the 1st
>century did. They abide under the curse of God as unbelievers. The only
>chosen nation today are both Jews and Gentiles who have been born again by
>the Spirit of God and have availed themselves of the blessings of the
>gospel of the grace of God in Christ. These only "are a chosen generation,
>a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people"
>(<http://goon.stg.brown.edu/cgi-bin/pbcgi?sourceform=pbeasy.shtml&maxhits=50&searchtype=fetch&version=kjv-g&searchstring=1Pet+2%3a9>1Pet
>2:9).
>
>I hope this helps a little.
>
>Love,
>Helen
>
>
>At 07:40 PM 12/22/03 -0700, you wrote:
> >Ok, for all of you who are knowledgeable about scripture, I have sdomething
> >that has been bothering me for a while now.  I want to know where we as in
> >where is America in the bible?  Are we the new Israel?  If so where is the
> >old Israel?  It still exists.  I have read Genesis through Eziechiel and
> >well, I can't find us so far.  Please let me know.
> >
> >Lelia the curious.