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Hey, Shelly

I thought you were new.  Introduce yourself to the rest of us, will ya?  And
what up with the turtle name?  Now we've got lions and tigers and birds and
turtles.  LOL.  We can start our own zoo!

Lion who doesn't like cages
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shelly Pryor" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: biblical questions


> You didn't know I was on this list because I just rejoined a few days ago
> smile
> Yes be scared the turtle is here LOL
> Shelly
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Gilland" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 8:23 PM
> Subject: Re: biblical questions
>
>
> > Wo!
> >
> >
> > I didn't know you were on this list!
> >
> >
> >
> > Cool!
> >
> >
> > Chris.
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris Gilland
> >
> > home phone:  704-307-4152
> >
> > Cell phone:  704-606-5335
> >
> > msn messenger:  [log in to unmask]
> >
> > AIM screenname:  gilland1981
> >
> > E-mail address:  [log in to unmask]
> >
> > may God ritchly bless and keep you!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Shelly Pryor" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 6:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: biblical questions
> >
> >
> > > i've heard it said the streets are gold because gold will be so common
> > there
> > > that it could be used as pavement and that there will be much finer
> > things.
> > > I know it does mention several diff kinds of stones in the bible. I'm
> > pretty
> > > sure it does say gold, but now I'm gonna have to go look.
> > > The flood was before the birth of Christ.
> > > Save fish from a flood LOL I never thought about that. There is a cute
> > kids
> > > book tthat asks all kinds of questions in rhyme about the arc I read
ir
> on
> > > the net I wish I had marked where it was. I'm rambling.
> > > going now.
> > > Shelly
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "B Dunse" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:17 PM
> > > Subject: Re: biblical questions
> > >
> > >
> > > > Mat,
> > > >
> > > > Funny how people ask about dinosaurs and care less if God talks
about
> > > > sharks, blackbirds or anything else he created. Not meaning you as
an
> > > > inquisitive state I think we all asked that one at one time or
> another,
> > > > seeking answers to the obvious questions, but those as you mention
who
> > try
> > > > to dispute the truth of God's word through science. I don't know
that
> > > > making mention of dinosaurs was high on God's list to example his
> > > > personality and message, but it is your lucky day... he actually did
> > > > mention them... Some dispute these accounts as alligators or crocs,
> but
> > I
> > > > find that pretty difficult to see as will likely you after you
read...
> > > >
> > > > Job 40:14-
> > > > God's Power Shown in Creatures
> > > >
> > > > 15 "Behold now, Behemoth, which I made as well as you; He eats grass
> > like
> > > > an ox. 16 "Behold now, his strength in his loins And his power in
the
> > > > muscles of his belly. 17 "He bends his tail like a cedar; The sinews
> of
> > > his
> > > > thighs are knit together. 18 "His bones are tubes of bronze; His
limbs
> > are
> > > > like bars of iron.
> > > >
> > > > 19 "He is the first of the ways of God; Let his maker bring near his
> > > sword.
> > > > 20 "Surely the mountains bring him food, And all the beasts of the
> field
> > > > play there. 21 "Under the lotus plants he lies down, In the covert
of
> > the
> > > > reeds and the marsh. 22 "The lotus plants cover him with shade; The
> > > willows
> > > > of the brook surround him. 23 "If a river rages, he is not alarmed;
He
> > is
> > > > confident, though the Jordan rushes to his mouth. 24 "Can anyone
> capture
> > > > him when he is on watch, With barbs can anyone pierce his nose?
> > > >
> > > > Job 41
> > > >
> > > > 41:1 God's Power Shown in Creatures
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Can you draw out Leviathan with a fishhook? Or press down his
tongue
> > with
> > > > a cord? 2 "Can you put a rope in his nose Or pierce his jaw with a
> hook?
> > 3
> > > > "Will he make many supplications to you, Or will he speak to you
soft
> > > > words? 4 "Will he make a covenant with you? Will you take him for a
> > > servant
> > > > forever? 5 "Will you play with him as with a bird, Or will you bind
> him
> > > for
> > > > your maidens? 6 "Will the traders bargain over him? Will they divide
> him
> > > > among the merchants? 7 "Can you fill his skin with harpoons, Or his
> head
> > > > with fishing spears? 8 "Lay your hand on him; Remember the battle;
you
> > > will
> > > > not do it again! 9 "Behold, your expectation is false; Will you be
> laid
> > > low
> > > > even at the sight of him? 10 "No one is so fierce that he dares to
> > arouse
> > > > him; Who then is he that can stand before Me? 11 "Who has given to
Me
> > that
> > > > I should repay him? Whatever is under the whole heaven is Mine.
> > > >
> > > > 12 "I will not keep silence concerning his limbs, Or his mighty
> > strength,
> > > > or his orderly frame. 13 "Who can strip off his outer armor? Who can
> > come
> > > > within his double mail? 14 "Who can open the doors of his face?
Around
> > his
> > > > teeth there is terror. 15 "His strong scales are his pride, Shut up
as
> > > with
> > > > a tight seal. 16 "One is so near to another That no air can come
> between
> > > > them. 17 "They are joined one to another; They clasp each other and
> > cannot
> > > > be separated. 18 "His sneezes flash forth light, And his eyes are
like
> > the
> > > > eyelids of the morning. 19 "Out of his mouth go burning torches;
> Sparks
> > of
> > > > fire leap forth. 20 "Out of his nostrils smoke goes forth As from a
> > > boiling
> > > > pot and burning rushes. 21 "His breath kindles coals, And a flame
goes
> > > > forth from his mouth. 22 "In his neck lodges strength, And dismay
> leaps
> > > > before him. 23 "The folds of his flesh are joined together, Firm on
> him
> > > and
> > > > immovable. 24 "His heart is as hard as a stone, Even as hard as a
> lower
> > > > millstone. 25 "When he raises himself up, the mighty fear; Because
of
> > the
> > > > crashing they are bewildered. 26 "The sword that reaches him cannot
> > avail,
> > > > Nor the spear, the dart or the javelin. 27 "He regards iron as
straw,
> > > > Bronze as rotten wood. 28 "The arrow cannot make him flee;
Slingstones
> > are
> > > > turned into stubble for him. 29 "Clubs are regarded as stubble; He
> > laughs
> > > > at the rattling of the javelin. 30 "His underparts are like sharp
> > > > potsherds; He spreads out like a threshing sledge on the mire. 31
"He
> > > makes
> > > > the depths boil like a pot; He makes the sea like a jar of ointment.
> 32
> > > > "Behind him he makes a wake to shine; One would think the deep to be
> > > > gray-haired. 33 "Nothing on earth is like him, One made without
fear.
> 34
> > > > "He looks on everything that is high; He is king over all the sons
of
> > > > pride."
> > > >
> > > > As for your question regarding Jesus and the flood. Jesus Christ as
we
> > > know
> > > > him, the man who was also Son of God, came after the flood. The Son
of
> > God
> > > > however, who became flesh, that being Jesus,  according to John's
> > gospel,
> > > > was always... was the word, is the word and will always be the word.
> You
> > > > can read that in John 1:1 and more.
> > > >
> > > > As far as saving water creatures? Well evidently Mattel felt the
need
> to
> > > > make sure the fish were accounted for in the flood and put them in a
> > > barrel
> > > > in the ark eh? lol. Obviously they fared just fine on their won
> swimming
> > > > where ever they wish, as wel as any other sea creatures, snails,
> > starfish
> > > > and whatever.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure golden streets is mentioned in the Bible? Hmm good
> > question.
> > > > You are right though, monetarily it means nothing to God, other than
> how
> > > it
> > > > might relate to us as a sacrifice to him. Perhaps someone else has a
> > > better
> > > > idea on that one.
> > > >
> > > > Brad

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