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I thought about some of these things after prayer meeting last night too.
Good thoughts.  Glad you wrote them up.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 6:03 PM
Subject: Hearing God's Voice


> Last night, during our Friday night prayer meeting we have in our home, my
> youngest son was telling everybody about his cousin.  Daniel is an
assistant
> pastor in a church here in Denver,  I personally know his pastor because I
> preached in his church once many years ago as a guest speaker on Sunday.
> Anyhow Daniel is the church youth pastor.  He is about 30 years of age.
Not
> long ago, Daniel, in one of the church youth meetings, passed out a survey
> questionnaire type thing.  The first question was, have you ever heard God
> speak to you.  Daniel told the teenagers that if they said yes to the
first
> question, he would recommend they be sent to a psychiatrist.  How odd, I
> thought.  I went to the same Bible college Daniel graduated from so I
> understand his thinking quite well.  Yet, even having the same
> denominational background, I cannot quite figure out where Daniel got this
> idea.  I heard many speakers in this denomination talking about hearing
from
> God and being led of the Holy Spirit.  Of course we never actually said, I
> heard God's voice speaking to me, but we did everything but say it.  How
> sad, I thought last night, that these kids are being taught God doesn't
talk
> to those He loves and died for.  At any rate, my son, who was telling this
> story last night, just got a Great Dane puppy that is about 10 weeks old.
> He is going to be a horse because his dad was a 200 pound dog, haw.
Anyhow,
> little Samson got sick a couple of days ago.  Donna, my daughter in law,
got
> pretty upset, she loves animals as much as my wife does, and she wanted to
> take him to the vet because she thought the new dog might have gotten
parvo.
> Some of you may recall how Sandy's first basset hound puppy got parvo and
> had to be put to sleep a couple of years ago.  Then our second puppy got
it,
> too, but we prayed, and asked many others to pray, and Hoaggie lived
through
> the parvo and is fine now.  Anyhow, some vets say parvo can stay in the
> house or even outside for up to two to four years while others say six
> months.  Donna and Everett's little boy they adopted recently, Anthony,
was
> eating some chicken Mac nuggets with barbecue sauce and decided he didn't
> want the rest of them and so he fed it to little Samson.  The dog got
sicker
> than a dog, sort of speak.  On the way to the vet that day, the Lord spoke
> to Donna and told her that her dog did not have parvo and he was going to
be
> fine.  And so it was.  She nearly turned around and went home because she
> was so satisfied with what she had heard but since she had already made
the
> appointment and she was almost there, she went ahead and took the dog in.
> When my wife got cancer five years ago, the Lord told me that the growth
on
> Sandy's arm was cancer but when they removed it, they would get all of the
> malignant melanoma the first time and so it was.  As all of you know, from
> my recent article I wrote about being in the hospital two weeks ago,
strong
> depression settled upon me in the hospital and I could not find the
reason.
> I knew it wasn't demonic because I know how to check for such things and I
> know what demonic oppression feels like and I know how to search for the
> source and origin of such an attack.  It hit me one night, as Sandy and I
> talked, that I had not bothered to look for the demonic aspect of my
> depression.  That was likely due to being so sick with a fever and all.  I
> laid down in the bed, I had been sitting up, and as I did, I hunted for
the
> source to see if it was demonic.  It wasn't and I thanked God that wasn't
> the source of my depression.  This puzzled me but again, being so sick and
> now depressed, I just figured it had to do with being sick.  I hadn't
eaten
> for three days nor had I slept for three days.  Plus my mind seemed cloudy
> and fuzzy from all the medications and the fever and all and sorting
things
> out seemed hard to do, to say the least.  So, a few moments later, when I
> felt the impression that the Lord was going to talk to me about my
daughter
> that night, I was glad but still puzzled about it.  When he did speak,
> without any words being spoken, it was the loudest He had ever spoken to
me
> and yet, as I wrote before, I never heard Him speaking in my thoughts or
my
> mind.  I know people to whom the Lord as literally appeared, my mom being
> one of them, and I know people who have literally heard an audible voice
> when the Lord spoke.  Of course, demons can do this, too, so you best know
> who you are in Christ in order to know the difference or you likely will
end
> up hearing something you didn't want to hear.  At any rate, it made me
feel
> good that my daughter in law, at her young age, clearly heard the Lord
even
> about a little dog.  Try and tell me God doesn't care.  I almost prayed
for
> Daniel last night that the Lord would speak to him to prove he was wrong
> about this topic but frankly, I think Daniel would be blown out of the
water
> if God spoke to him so I decided to let the Lord figure that one out
without
> my help.
>
> Phil.
>

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