the people that make jfw do monitor the user list, and what's wrong with how
they manage file and folder names? I never had any complaints with jfw at
all, no problem with the support either. Not in the 5 years I've used it
anyway. But I suppose that's not for this list, sorry I got in to this
conversation, I always am when this topic comes up and I throw my 2 cents
in. Basically, I say, do what I did, try both, see which you like, the demos
are out there, and go with it and don't listen to input from anyone, you'll
be a lot better off when it comes to screen readers. Everyone likes what
they use and don't even want to hear anything about the other product in
most cases.
John Miller N1UMJ
Owner of J. E. M. Racing http://home.comcast.net/~jemracing5/wsb/index.html
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Kaufman" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: Bad Job With ULS License Renewal


| Maybe a bit late on this one.
| jfw versus window-eyes?
| Depends on what you want to do.
| I like window-eyes because of GW Micro.  They monitor their user support
| e-mail list, send out betas for every to try and give input on, and when
| you call them, you get support from a person who actually uses the
| product.  You usually are talking to that person in less than 30 seconds
| after the phone is answered.
| The other thing I like, is that the installed speech except for dectalk
| access32 off course, are not solely tied in to the screen reader.
| The set files can be easily made.  That means that you don't have to go to
| learn a special programming language, to make them.  Because of that,
| people freely share their creations with each other, rather than make
| commercial enter prizes out of set file creation.  Since they didn't have
| to pay to learn how to do it, their are no investment costs to recuperate.
| That company philosophy puts the control of the screen reader software in
| the hands of the end user, rather than in the hands of the manufacturer
and
| the techs.
| We fight paternalism in so many places, I'd rather not see it on my
keyboard.
|
| Jfw is ahead now in terms of Microsoft office support.  GWMicro aught to
| hit that one hard for the next release.  They really have to get support
| for power point.
| Window-eyes is much more stable, and is smoother on the net.
| Download demos of both, try them in your applications on your computer and
| then choose.
|
| The one inexcusable thing about jfw, is the way it handles file and folder
| names.  That is barbaric and absolutely inexcusable.
| If they monitored their user e-mail list, and gave end users input to the
| program, that would have been fixed from the beginning.
| Dos names for windows files?
|
| Inexcusable!!!