----- Original Message -----
From: "j.ireland" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: Retreat part3


> Chris,
>
> I'm probably not a good one to comment here as I've been out of youth
> contact for a while.  But while I'm still thinking more on it, who all was
> supposed to be adult supervision?   Well, my mom didn't think I was, but
Lin certainly did, then there was someone named Sarah Harmon, Lin, my mom,
and Tom Green...


Is this Lin  person the youth pastor and
> do you know about how old he might be?

i can answer both of these right on the money.  yes, he is our pastor, and
he's exactly 33.  He'll be 34 I believe he said this September.


>
> P.S.  Sounds as a whole, like it went pretty good, though really.
>
> Vicki
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris L Gilland" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 3:23 PM
> Subject: Retreat part3
>
>
> > The situation was, that Lin had everyone playing follow the leader,
> however
> > before that, he told them that he was going to have restling match.
This
> in
> > itself worried me somewhat, but what really ticked the blasted branes
> outta
> > me, and then some, was when he allowed the girls, including Jenny to
> restle
> > with another boy...  Can I here you say, Stoo'oo'oo? pid.  Well, on top
of
> > this, I had another situation, in that, yes, he did ask the girls if
they
> > wanted to pertisipate in the game, and if so how did they wanna do it,
> > paired up, with the guies, etc.  Still though, the whole idea of that,
and
> > in such a small area, of a bedroom, wasn't appropriate...  I knew that
in
> > that small space and with that age range of kids, someone's bound to get
> > hurt...  Well, sure nough I was right, a guy named Charlie got cut badly
> > enough to need a bandaide...  When I told Lin please to stop the game,
he
> > percisted to keep right on doing it...  I even said, quote;  Lin, I am
> > getting upset, not angry, but literally anxiety, please, I'm begging
> you...
> > Stop...  he wouldn't though...  It absolutely made me livid!  I thought
> > guys, literally, that i was going to pass out...  I was so worried for
> > jenny... With her azma, she didn't need to be playing that.  Jenny
should
> a
> > known that, but just didn't think about that...  Well, finally that was
> > over.  Well, the rest of the night, was pretty good for the most part...
> > however, that night at bed time, no one wants me to know this, but I
do...
> > I saw more than they thought as they think I was asleep like everyone
> else,
> > but I  was everything but that...  She had an attack, and finally went
and
> > got my mom.  my mom came and I don't know if gave her some medicine or
> gave
> > her some kind of a treatment...  I do remember her telling Jenny to
> breathe.
> > Well, she left the room and went to somewhere else to sleep... shortly
> then
> > after, everyone else in there left...  Don't know why, but...  I had
> > nightmare after nightmare...  Collin was teasing her earlier saying
jenny
> as
> > sick as you are, how long do you think you will live?  Because of that,
> that
> > night, last night that is, I didn't sleep for one minute, literally not
> even
> > sixty seconds...  it was nightmare after nightmare if I tried, of her
> having
> > an attack, peremetics coming, and her being OPD...  I remember the first
> > time it happened, I literally shot up on my butt and screamed quite
> > loudly...  I'm still ebven now, just so scared for her that it's not
> funny,
> > I don't quite know how to handle it, and i don't even feel I did a good
> job
> > of handle it...  I feel totally besides prlayer, helpless.  O well
> though...
> > When she left to go home, like literally home, i wanted so bad to
hugger,
> > and giver a quick gentle kiss on the cheak and tell her to take care and
> > that i loved her, as i really would a meant every word of it...  i still
> > mean every word of it...  i didn't do either of the 3, cause i didn't
want
> > to embarrass either of us, or for it to be  perceived the wrong way...
> She
> > literally though even to now has me worried sick!
> >
> > Anyway, what would you all suggest, or in a whole, now's yall's chance.
> i'd
> > like to hear you all's opinions.
> >
> >
> > Did i do a good thing to worry?  Did i take it too far?
> >
> > Did I do the wrong thing by being so angry at Lin, or was that
> > understandable?
> >
> > BTW:  This is a guy so let's get something clear up front as it offends
> him
> > if you do it wrong...  it is n'n'n'not! l, y, n, n!  It's spelled
> correctly
> > as:  L, i, n.
> >
> > if you'd rather call him what most except myself do:  then just call 'em
> > Carter.  That's his last name, but must just call him that, not pastor
> > Carter, not Mister Carter, just simply Carter.  I don't know why he
let's
> me
> > call him Lin, but from day 1, that I met him, he's never even once
> objected.
> >
> > Anyway, I'm ready for replies, so have hat it...
> >
> >
> > Chris.
> >