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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
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Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:25:12 -0700
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you r right, scott, when it comes to tax cuts, it is
pretty blavk and white. no need to debate.
 i guess ishould get in to the tv room to watch the
interview of juanita brodwick. hillery in on larry
king, at the same time. that is too bad, i'd like to
watch them both.

ken, who still can't program a vcr

--- Scott Sands <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> <P>We're back to old black/white,
> Republican/Democrat arguments with the whole "cut
> taxes or not" debate.&nbsp; I won't touch that,
> except to say that it isn't as simple as you make it
> sound.</P></DIV>
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> <DIV>Scott Sands</DIV>
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> <DIV>5604 S. 297th St.</DIV>
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> <DIV>Auburn WA 98001</DIV>
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> <DIV></DIV>----Original Message Follows----
> <DIV></DIV>From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> <DIV></DIV>Reply-To: "St. John's University Cerebral
> Palsy List" <[log in to unmask]>
> <DIV></DIV>To: [log in to unmask]
> <DIV></DIV>Subject: Re: Mag's whip; was RE: Am I the
> only one online?
> <DIV></DIV>Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:02:05 -0700
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>actually i see it different. for one
> person to get a
> <DIV></DIV>piece of pie does not exclude another
> necessarily.
> <DIV></DIV>what you do is make a bigger pie so more
> people can
> <DIV></DIV>have their piece. you do that by cutting
> taxes and
> <DIV></DIV>growing the ecconomy. let's see, someone
> proposed to
> <DIV></DIV>do that. gee the name eludes me.
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>--- Scott Sands
> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <P>Not all of us have the best lifestyle in the
> </P></DIV>&gt; world, and a great many of those who
> do not don't
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; miss out because they did not
> try.&nbsp; They took
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; the risks and we didn't?&nbsp;
> Sometimes.&nbsp;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Sometimes they had the opportunity,
> and we
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; didn't.&nbsp;
> <P></P>
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <P>The problem with pure capitalism?&nbsp; At it's
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; heart, it REQUIRES haves and
> have-nots.&nbsp; In
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; capitalism, economic equilibrium is
> NOT a state
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; that&nbsp;provides for
> everyone.&nbsp; I have a
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; problem with a system that requires
> losers, rational
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; or not.
> <P></P>
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <P>The problem with pure communism?&nbsp; It
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; requires pure people--uncorruptible
> myths--to take
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; us to the utopia envisioned by
> Marx.&nbsp; No one
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; can take the kind of power that a
> Marxist communist
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; government needs, use it
> benevolently, and give it
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; back to the people when the time is
> right (whenever
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; that is).&nbsp; At its heart,
> though, it's not an
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; evil idea--take only what people can
> give, and give
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; back what they need.
> <P></P>
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <P>I'm sure I'll come under fire for disliking
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; capitalism and not condemning
> communism to the pits
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; of hell, but let's face it--they're
> theories.&nbsp;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; And it's not just the flaws in the
> theories that
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; stop them from working--it's the
> flaws in the people
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; who try to transition from theory to
> practice.&nbsp;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; People don't work the right way for
> a pure
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; capitalist system, or a pure
> communist one.&nbsp; I
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; think Mag is right--we need
> balance.<BR>
> <P></P>
> <DIV></DIV>
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> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV>Scott Sands</DIV>
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> <DIV></DIV>----Original Message Follows----
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>From: "BG Greer, PhD"
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; <[log in to unmask]>
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>Reply-To: "St. John's University Cerebral
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; Palsy List"
> <[log in to unmask]>
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>To: [log in to unmask]
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>Subject: Re: Mag's whip; was RE: Am I the
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; only one online?
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:05:29 EDT
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>Mag,
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>We have the best life style in the world,
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; and it wasn't brought about
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>by government bureaucrats. Sadly, people
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; need profits for motivation.
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>Corporations have brought about this easy
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; lifestyle. Yes, the rich get rich,
> but they
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>took the risks, we did not.
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>Bobby
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; don't know what the solution
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; is but I think we need a combination
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; of things.
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; not just corporations, not just
> <DIV></DIV>&gt; communism, not just socialism.
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
> <DIV></DIV>&gt;
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> Protect your PC -
>
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