Hi Kelly, what gives?  I'm surprised to find your
comment to me!  After your last posting, I had already
closed the books on us learning from each other.  I
understood that you did not "want to pursue my line of
reasoning any further."  Besides, again you misconstrued
what I had actually said.  Anyway, now that you've
posted to me again, be nice...:  No need for derogatives
or attacks.  We are simply not seeing eye to eye on
these things.  And that should be o.k. with you as well
as it is for me.

Rudy
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> Anyone with a roof over his or her head, a computer and cable television
> and the time to decide what to watch on television is far better off than
> many people with or without disabilities on this planet.
>
> Your comments make for entertaining net reading but as for thoughtful
> analysis fall way short in my opinion.
>
> There's no grand plot to hold the disabled down.  Some companies tried
> something for free and are finding that it didn't work.  Get a grip.
>
> Kelly
>
>
> On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Rudy Caris wrote:
>
> > Hi again Kelly,
> >
> > As there is no obligation to post to the board, my
> > initial response to you would be:  “Then don’t try to
> > follow my reasoning.”  However, some things you said
> > totally miss the point I’m making.  In this concluding
> > remark I would like to address them.
> >
> > For instance…:
> >
> > Oh, what the heck!  It isn’t my place to educate anyone
> > or explain the state of affairs or even the logical
> > correlation between things.  But that is the reason why
> > I’ve included and we study George Orwell, Steinbeck, The
> > snows of Kilimanjaro, Lord of the rings, Plato, Cannery
> > row, The old man and the sea, Beckett and even
> > Aristotle, and so on.
> >
> > It has to do with developing depth and breadth of ones
> > critical thinking ability and expanding ones perceptive
> > mental horizons for understanding.
> >
> > And granted, the workers loose their jobs.  But we are
> > talking here about the boon to the CEOs.  And please
> > don’t ask me what that has to do with “the changing ISP
> > market” or the “deregulated electricity forum in
> > California” affecting the disabled.  Actually Kelly:  A
> > whole lot, as they all are detrimental to certain
> > classes of disabled people.
> >
> > These issues directly relate to the study of economics
> > and the Global Business of today.  And as "a rose by any
> > other name, is still a rose", via that inference, vague
> > innuendo, and loosely worded association, Mr. Goldstein
> > refers to the millions of disabled who use free ISP as I
> > said he did.
> >
> > But thanks anyway for your postings.  I was wondering
> > what to do for entertainment this first day of the new
> > millennium.  It was a difficult choice between the
> > marathon airing of Xena the Princess Warrior on Oxygen,
> > or posting to this Board.
> >
> > Thanks again for the opportunity, and many regards.
> >
> > Rudy
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > > I have absolutely no clue how you can toss George Orwell, the failures of a
> > > deregulated electricity market in California and section 508 web guidelines
> > > for the federal government into a discussion on the free ISP market
> > > changing to a more regulated structure.  Perhaps your reasoning makes sense
> > > to you but personally I'm lost and quite frankly have no interest in trying
> > > to follow your reasoning.
> > >
> > > This isn't some corporate plot to hold down people with disabilities.  It
> > > is a company who thought one business model would work realizing it doesn't
> > > and taking steps to deal with the new reality.  Take a look at the internet
> > > arena.  If you think all the companies that have gone out of business are
> > > not real, go ask all the workers who've lost jobs as a result how real the
> > > failures are.
> > >
> > > In the end there are still many free options for internet access.  There
> > > are few that will allow unlimited access for people who want to be online
> > > multiple hours a day and that has nothing to do with disability.
> > >
> > > Kelly
> >