Dear Gregg,

It's good to see you again. i believe you were asked a question in relation
to your verbose defence of Cordain's recommendation of canola oil. this
question was:
"how can Simopoulos and Robinson say that canola oil alone *caused* the
reduction in deaths?"

we await your answer.

Ken Stuart argued that the benefit comes in 'certain' situations of high
temperature cooking.  We await his clarification of this cryptic comment.

Andrew



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I've been reading Andrew's posts patiently over the past few weeks, and
aside from his rude, abrasive, and overbearing style -- that masks the few
facts he gets straight -- the clearest thing that comes across is that he
has no idea of the nature of science.  First, any scientist dealing with
complex living organism has to do interdisciplinary work-- which in no way
requires that one have a doctorate in another discipline to understand its
findings (the basic principles of the scientific method and mindset allow
scientists from widely diverse fields to communicate with one another) ...
biologists read and use chemistry papers, and do not hesitate deal with
chemistry, when appropriate, in the papers; geologists read biology and
chemistry papers; sociologists read biology and anthropology papers ... and
so on.  Second, there is a huge division of labor in science, and one does
not have to be out in the field to understand the scientific papers based on
field studies.  To wit, some biologists work in the field, some in the lab,
some behind a computer screen-- but they all are comfortable reading,
interpreting, and using each other's work.

Finally, I think Todd should republish the rules for using this listserv,
which discourage "flames" and boorish behavior.

Gregg
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what a hoot. i can't see Gregg waiting around too long here.
this is another one of these 'laughing stock' studies.

What to do with cordain? we have an exercise physiologist pretending to an
expert on the diet of indigenous tribes, when he has never jumped on a plane
and gone to Australai/Hawaii/Siberia/ etc and asked some pretty simple
questions, like what do u eat, and what does the tribe value most in food.

Andrew

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For example, as reported by Simopoulos and
Robinson: "In a carefully designed study known as the Lyon Diet Heart Study,
Benaud and de Lorgeril assigned 302 heart attack survivors to a traditional
heart diet, the 'prudent' heart diet recommended by the American Heart
Association (AHA).  A similar group was assigned to a slightly modified
version of the Crete diet.  This new diet was based on CANOLA OIL and olive
oil, and it had a ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 fatty acids of 4 to 1, much
lower than the AHA diet and the traditional Western diet.  The diet was also
lower in red meat and deli meats, but higher in fish, grains, fruits, and
vegetables.  Overall, it contained 35% fat, whereas the AHA diet is 30%.
The results of this study made medical history.  Just 4 months into the
clinical trial, the researchers discovered there had been significantly
fewer deaths in the group on the modified Crete diet than on the AHA
diet.[snip]

Simopoulos and Robinson go on to
interpret the key to the findings of this study as being the increased LNA
because of the consumption of CANOLA oil.