On Wednesday 21 May 2003 10:25 pm, you wrote:
> i preferr the removal of all the muslim theocraties

Why?

I thought freedom of worship was one of the tenets of the American
constitution. Its strange that the concept of freedom  seems to only apply to
Western Christian Democracies. That the export of US & UK violence is
justifiied, at least in part, by bringing "freedom" to other countries
(although the interim military junta in Iraq appears to want to impose its
martial rule for at least 2 years before allowing the Iraqis the promised
freedom).

"Freedom" is of course a relative term. A non-christian super power (if such a
thing existed) could justify invasion of the US on the grounds of freeing the
citizens from the imposed yoke of monogamy!! (Although personally I consider
"less is more" in the case of marital numeracy!!).

Watched a fascinating program on the BBC the other night, they had a camera
team sitting on the neo-conservative think tank, architects of Bush's hawkish
foreign policy, throughout the Iraqi invasion - frightening.

Cheers

Deri

PS Scott, I'm the Nihilist on the list (I was an anarchist but got thrown out
for not believing in anything,  rather than following the doctrine of
believing in nothing).

PPS  The two words in the above paragraph have probably triggered the FBI
email filter so a real FBI person has read this, hope he/she enjoys it.


> --- "Cleveland, Kyle E." <[log in to unmask]>
>
> wrote:
> > Thanks, Bobby (and all of you for your well
> > wishes!).
> >
> > There has been some interesting modeling done with a
> > couple DoD Cray
> > supercomputers (one of them is just down the street)
> > regarding attacks
> > within the U.S. borders.  Essentially what's going
> > on is that tens of
> > thousands of scenarios and tens of thousands of
> > different parameters
> > (gathered from the latest Situation Reports) nested
> > in those scenarios are
> > "played out" using the Crays.  If a pattern develops
> > that is statistically
> > significant, the scenarios are manually examined for
> > plausibility.  This is
> > one part of the process of determining the threat
> > "level".
> >
> > The latest indications are that we've pretty much
> > protected the "hard"
> > targets: military bases, nuclear facilities,
> > critical infrastructure, etc.
> > So, the "soft" targets and targets of opportunity
> > are showing up as likely
> > loci for an attack.  Such places as: universities,
> > defense related
> > industries, "icon" industries (ex. The "Coca Cola"
> > facilities in Atlanta,
> > Proctor and Gamble's home office in Ohio, IBM's
> > world HQ in New York),
> > secondary cities like Ken mentioned: Dallas,
> > Atlanta, Chicago, etc.
> >
> > It's not an exact science, by any means.  It's about
> > at the same level as
> > computerized weather modeling stood in the late
> > '70s. (I only know these
> > things because I've been sent to Disaster
> > Preparedness classes ad nauseum).
> >
> > You'd be surprised at the amount of activity going
> > on covertly in the US and
> > around the world.  I think I've mentioned this
> > before, but for all the Bush
> > administration lacks in domestic policy, they've
> > done a bang-up job of
> > keeping the lid on threats--many of them never even
> > hit the media.  I can't
> > say that I would have felt nearly as calm with Mr.
> > Clinton as
> > Commander-in-Chief.
> >
> > But yes, Al Queda is getting more militant about
> > hitting civilians on U.S.
> > soil.  The latest jihad specifically called for
> > attacks against American men
> > women and children here in the States.  The idea is
> > to use terror to change
> > American foreign policy by scaring the voters into
> > demanding a complete
> > military and diplomatic withdrawal from Muslim
> > theocracies.
> >
> > -Kyle
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BG Greer, PhD [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:35 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Dang!
> >
> >
> > Kyle,
> >
> >        I am sorry you friend gave his life for his
> > country, although he
> > would
> > probably have preferred it to be that way. Be well
> > when you batten down the
> > hatches. From the news, it sounds like Al Queda is
> > quite serious in wanting
> > to bring terrorism to us.
> > Love to Laura and the kids.
> >
> > Bobby
>
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